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Suggestions for improvement and various discussions

BaggyBlue

Master Sergeant
Because in Facebook they will listen to the most idiotic and not logical whatsoever ideas rather than focusing what's important and what the community has been seeking for the past I don't even know how many years. Not everyone is using Facebook so not adding this in beta forum is a poor judgement by the HQ and shows how badly this game is managed.
I agree with you 100%. For event is OK on Facebook. Now the but. For Set I say no. They discuss new events and what we want for the new event set. Social media should be separated.
 

BaggyBlue

Master Sergeant
This is what I once wrote about how I see a CM. Beta is every CM in his own right, good at his job. where I'm at true on beta. The German world had good CMs at the beginning, then came CMs, then temporary CMs where they were good, then mediocre CMs

( What does a community manager do?

As a community manager, you take care of the dialogue between companies and customers in internet forums or social networks. You encourage discussions, moderate contributions and act as a link between consumers and companies.

What makes good community management?

Clear responsibilities

Good community management can only work if the responsibilities of the people involved are precisely defined from the start. Everyone within the team must know who is allowed to answer inquiries and who is not.

Why is community important?

You can connect with your customers through your community. And not only that. You also have the opportunity to respond to your customers' needs, inquiries or criticism. Your goal should be to build trust with your customers.

3 things that are important to me from community management but it seems to me that something is going very wrong in the forum )
 

BaggyBlue

Master Sergeant
I can't criticize any team on Beta. Do good work. I just want to show what many don't want to see from a community manager. What the task is.

Only LCM can be criticized. Because they don't want to listen to us! InnoGame doesn't want to communicate with us and many people have a problem with that.

Just to fulfill women's quotas you don't always have to take a woman as LCM. As in the party, you can elect 2 people.
A woman and a man as LCM

What's the point of having a good community manager who does everything for us. But the boss isn't a team player? In sports the coach gets fired! ( The rest is free to think! :njub:)
 

Emma Swan

Corporal
I've been asking for Q&A with someone from InnoGames (like LCM etc.) for years now, obviously without success...

But I'll keep dreaming
They dont have guts to face us, because players are smarter just because they have experiences that have huge value from playing this game, not sitting behind the computer clicking acting smart while looking at the numbers. Green, okey, my work is perfectly done!. Yellow .... lets add +1% skills to new sets. Maybe there are some players that wont notice and buy nuggets for that.... Red? omg, let me sleep on that, tomorrow it will be maybe yellow, then i can act like its green, so again, my job is perfectly done!

Just looking at Circus, Valentine, items, sets, base of the game, characters, buffs, craft, everything is old. That is the answer to our questions. There is nothing special added in last what .... 8 years? Almost nothing makes sense. They are just feeding us with new sets. Why dont we have npc FF? why are still the same FF types? Do they have in that country word Creativity? Or its just ja, nein, slapen kaken, essen?

This is turning into comedy
 

BaggyBlue

Master Sergeant
My Fort Fight Wish Set

Adventure set:

Neck
+0.11 Strength (per level)
+0.06 Dexterity (per level)
+0.11 Charisma (per level)
+0.10 life points (per level)
+0.10 Evasion (per level)
+0.52 trap locations (per level)
+0.82 Multiplayer Defense
+10 Resistance (Fort Combat Bonus)

Head
+0.11 Strength (per level)
+0.11 Dexterity (per level)
+0.08 Charisma (per level)
+0.10 life points (per level)
+0.08 Dodge (per level)
+0.10 trap locations (per level)
+0.82 Multipolar Defense
+11 Resistance (Forestry Combat Bonus)

Upper grains/shirt
+0.11 Strength (per level)
+0.11 Agility (per level)
+0.11 Dexterity (per level)
+0.08 Charisma (per level)
+0.11 life points (per level)
+012 Dodge (per level)
+0.72 trap locations (per level)
+0.10 Leadership (per level)
+13 Resistance (Forestry Combat Bonus)

Pants
+0.11 Strength (per level)
+0.11 Agility (per level)
+0.11 Dexterity (per level)
+0.08 Charisma (per level)
+0.11 life points (per level)
+0.13 Dodge (per level)
+0.12 trap locations (per level)
+0.10 Leadership (per level)
+13 Resistance (Fort Combat Bonus)

Belt/suspenders
+0.11 Strength (per level)
+0.11 Agility (per level)
+0.08 Dexterity (per level)
+0.11 Charisma (per level)
+0.11 Dodge (per level)
+0.62 trap locations (per level)
+0.10 Leadership (per level)
+9.82 Multiplayer Defense
+11 Resistance (Fort Combat Bonus)

Shoes and boots
+0.11 Strength (per level)
+0.08 Dexterity (per level)
+0.11 Charisma (per level)
+0.11 life points (per level)
+0.08 Dodge (per level)
+010 Guidance (per level)
+9.82 Multiplayer Defense
+11 Resistance (Fort Combat Bonus)

product
+0.13 Strength (per level)
+0.12 Agility (per level)
+0.12 Dexterity (per level)
+0.92 health points (per level)
+0.12 trap locations (per level)
+0.12 Leadership (per level)
+14 Multiplayer Defense

Animals
+0.13 Strength (per level)
+0.12 Dexterity (per level)
+0.12 Charisma (per level)
+016 life points (per level)
+0.52 Dodge (per level)
+0.12 trap locations (per level)
+14 Multiplayer Defense Speed +282%

Sword/saber/dagger
19-29 damage
+8.22 damage (per level)
+0.13 Strength (per level)
+0.09 Dexterity (per level)
+0.11 Charisma (per level)
+0.11 life points (per level)
+0.11 Dodge (per level)
+0.11 trap locations (per level)
+8 Multiplayer Defense
+17 Resistance (Fort Combat Bonus)

Firearm
19-29 damage
+8.22 damage (per level)
+0.13 Strength (per level)
+0.09 Dexterity (per level)
+0.11 Charisma (per level)
+0.11 life points (per level)
+0.11 trap locations (per level)
+0.11 Leadership (per level)
+8 Multiplayer Defense
+17 Resistance (Fort Combat Bonus)

Gun
27-47 damage
+2.22 damage (per level)
+0.13 Strength (per level)
+0.11 Dexterity (per level)
+0.09 Charisma (per level)
+0.11 life points (per level)
+0.11 trap locations (per level)
+0.11 Leadership (per level)
+9 Multiplayer Defense
+22 Resistance (Fort Combat Bonus)

Everything can be auctioned and refine
 

BaggyBlue

Master Sergeant
My Fort Fight Wish Set

Soldier set:

Neck
+0.12 Strength (per level)
+0.09 Agility (per level)
+0.11 Dexterity (per level)
+0.13 life points (per level)
+0.10 Evasion (per level)
+0.52 trap locations (per level)
+0.82 Multiplayer Defense
+10 Resistance (Fort Combat Bonus)

Head
+0.11 Strength (per level)
+0.09 Agility (per level)
+0.11 Dexterity (per level)
+0.10 Evasion (per level)
+0.52 trap locations (per level)
+0.09 Leadership (per level
+0.11 Multipolar Defense
+9.5 Resistance (Forestry Combat Bonus)

Upper grains/shirt
+0.13 Strength (per level)
+0.08 Agility (per level)
+0.13 Dexterity (per level)
+0.10 Charisma (per level)
+0.13 life points (per level)
+014 Evasion (per level)
+0.72 trap locations (per level)
+0.10 Leadership (per level)
+12 Resistance (Forestry Combat Bonus)

Pants
+0.14 Strength (per level)
+0.11 Agility (per level)
+0.11 Dexterity (per level)
+0.09 Charisma (per level)
+0.72 health points (per level)
+0.12 Dodge (per level)
+0.72 trap locations (per level)
+0.10 Leadership (per level)
+12 Resistance (Fort Combat Bonus)

Belt/suspenders
+0.13 Strength (per level)
+0.10 Agility (per level)
+0.12 Dexterity (per level)
+0.13 Charisma (per level)
+0.11 Dodge (per level)
+0.62 trap locations (per level)
+0.09 Leadership (per level)
+11 Multiplayer Defense
+11 Resistance (Fort Combat Bonus)

Shoes and boots
+0.13 Strength (per level)
+0.12 Dexterity (per level)
+0.13 Charisma (per level)
+0.12 life points (per level)
+0.09 Dodge (per level)
+0.62 trap locations (per level)
+010 Leadership (per level)
+9.82 Multiplayer Defense
+11 Resistance (Fort Combat Bonus)

Sword/saber/dagger
19-29 damage
+9.9 damage (per level)
+0.14 Strength (per level)
+0.13 Dexterity (per level)
+0.10 Charisma (per level)
+0.10 life points (per level)
+0.08 Dodge (per level)
+0.09 trap locations (per level)
+8 Multiplayer Defense

Firearm
19-29 damage
+9.9 damage (per level)
+0.14 Strength (per level)
+0.13 Dexterity (per level)
+0.10 Charisma (per level)
+0.10 life points (per level)
+0.09 trap locations (per level)
+0.11 Leadership (per level)
+8 Multiplayer Defense

Gun
27-47 damage
+2.22 damage (per level)
+0.15 Strength (per level)
+0.15 Charisma (per level)
+0.42 life points (per level)
+0.09 dodge (per level)
+0.42 trap locations (per level)
+32 Resistance (Fort Combat Bonus)

Animals
+0.13 Strength (per level)
+0.13 Dexterity (per level)
+0.14 Charisma (per level)
+0.72 health points (per level)
+0.11 Dodge (per level)
+0.11 trap locations (per level)
+12 Multiplayer Defense
Speed +198%

product
+0.12 Strength (per level)
+0.12 Agility (per level)
+0.11 Dexterity (per level)
+0.72 health points (per level)
+0.52 trap locations (per level)
+0.11 Leadership (per level)
+12 Multiplayer Defense

Everything can be auctioned and refined
 

BaggyBlue

Master Sergeant
My Fort Fight Wish Set

Worker/Duelist Set:

Neck
+0.062 Agility (per level)
+0.052 Charisma (per level)
+0.62 Hide (per level)
+0.35 Aim (per level)
+0.53 Leadership (per level)

Head
+0.052 Agility (per level)
+0.062 Charisma (per level)
+0.52 Hide (per level)
+0.46 Aim (per level)
+0.12 Leadership (per level

Upper grains/shirt
+0.092 Agility (per level)
+0.092 Charisma (per level)
+0.62 Hide (per level)
+0.11 Aim (per level)
+0.11 Leadership (per level)

Pants
+0.072 Agility (per level)
+0.082 Charisma (per level)
+0.62 Hide (per level)
+0.62 Aim (per level)
+0.75 Leadership (per level)

Belt/suspenders
+0.072 Agility (per level)
+0.082 Charisma (per level)
+0.11 Hide (per level)
+0.11 Aim (per level)
+0.56 Leadership (per level)

Shoes and boots
+0.072 Agility (per level)
+0.072 Charisma (per level)
+0.62 Hide (per level)
+0.11 Aim (per level)
+0.62 Leadership (per level)

Sword/saber/dagger
22-32 damage
+9.22 damage (per level)
+0.025 Agility (per level)
+0.09 Dexterity (per level)
+0.042 Charisma (per level)
+0.40 Hide (per level)
+0.50 Aim (per level)
+0.11 Leadership (per level)
+8 Multiplayer-Attack

Firearm
22-32 damage
+9.22 damage (per level)
+0.025 Agility (per level)
+0.09 Dexterity (per level)
+0.042 Charisma (per level)
+0.60 Hide (per level)
+0.40 Aim (per level)
+0.10 Leadership (per level)
+8 Multiplayer-Attack

Gun
52-67 damage
+9.9 damage (per level)
+0.015 Agility (per level)
+0.015 Dexterity (per level)
+0.015 Charisma (per level)
+0.12 Hide (per level)
+0.11 Aim (per level)
+0.11 Leadership (per level)
+9 Multiplayer-Attack
 

-Fkr-

Reservist
Maybe add Gringo's clothing set for nuggets ,only on beta... After all it's a test server... maybe we could test the set :))
 

-Fkr-

Reservist
Or better... make it available for all servers ...Gringo is like the holy grail of sets for about 10 years or more ... It's about time to make a new holy grail and make this available for players with nuggets ... soccer/western are outdated...
 

Uchiha Madara

Master Sergeant
Or better... make it available for all servers ...Gringo is like the holy grail of sets for about 10 years or more ... It's about time to make a new holy grail and make this available for players with nuggets ... soccer/western are outdated...
Would be great but I don't think that will ever happen. Gringo goes into the Union Officer category ( Never to be sold )
 

Football

Sergeant
I have a full Gringo.. but to be honest its not as good as you think.
The weapons for duel are now weak - the male oktoberfest weapons are better for defending. The jaguar weapons are better for attacking.
The clothes are weak as a set. Only the hat and the belt are good.
The animal set are good, its the fastest... but 3-4 sec difference isnt worth 100 million :D
 

Emma Swan

Corporal
Would be great but I don't think that will ever happen. Gringo goes into the Union Officer category ( Never to be sold )
They can start making some national events, not only on international speed servers. Gap would be smaller between gringo people and non gringo ones. After that it would become kinda high end basic equipment meaning space for better sets. But, as we have seen, Black Friday set is still with the same price to buy compared to Conte set which is less expensive and better. Again, logic..... Most of gringo is won during events when dobby wasnt that popular and well known. So, maybe small % of winner are legit winners I would say.

As for Union, its time to release something like that, honestly FF are already too unstable fill of randomly random rng so it wont hurt that much. Or buff lucille and deputy chef guns. And after that reverse change with resistance, bring back its value and make Kordiak 2.0 with bonus defence as well.

But how are we going to reach level 250 if Xp are fixed from jobs and not per level? When you are after years 245 they will releae level 350. So pushing new XP system and sets is a must.
 

-Fkr-

Reservist
Well it should be sold or jobs should be improved ... with center jobs game was improved so lvl 150 was faster than before, so new players would play when they could get max lvl faster so they would be close to old players but since you added new jobs and you get 20-30 exp more than the old jobs and you had before 2-3kk from lvl 149 to 150 and now you have 30kk from 249 to 250... jobs should be at least 1k-2k exp/15 sec so you can see a difference , not 250-300 exp...church should be higher exp ...That's not normal to make lvl 150 in a few months and ppl played for about 10 years with lvl 150 and now you can get to lvl 250 in about 10 years if you start from 0... So high lvl = more players ,more nuggets(more money for InnoGames), everybody is happy :P
 

WhyN0t

Master Sergeant
I have a full Gringo.. but to be honest its not as good as you think.
The weapons for duel are now weak - the male oktoberfest weapons are better for defending. The jaguar weapons are better for attacking.
The clothes are weak as a set. Only the hat and the belt are good.
The animal set are good, its the fastest... but 3-4 sec difference isnt worth 100 million :D
I agree with everything besides the 3rd point. The clothes are not weak at all, they are the best by far for bonuses. You have a bit (a lot actually) of everything. They're not as good as they were 4 years ago, but still much better than Rochambeau/Anniversary set. The weapons are ok as a tank, but not that great. They're good for sector bonus. In adventures they are ok if they are upgraded. But the hp penalty is so damn high, they're weaker than chef's knives +4. And i'm talking about the riffle +1, the riffle +0 is much weaker than chef's knives +3. They should reduce/eliminate the hp penalty bonus for adventures.
 

Uchiha Madara

Master Sergeant
I have a full Gringo.. but to be honest its not as good as you think.
The weapons for duel are now weak - the male oktoberfest weapons are better for defending. The jaguar weapons are better for attacking.
The clothes are weak as a set. Only the hat and the belt are good.
The animal set are good, its the fastest... but 3-4 sec difference isnt worth 100 million :D
Noooo bro you cant just say the clothing set is weak. If you are above level 180 you gain around 4k skill points FOR FREE. The clothing bonuses + set bonuses have a very high multiplier that give a lot of skill points. With Gringo clothes you can easily work in a very difficult jobs with ease. I agree that the hat and belt are very OP and I don't think they will ever make individual items as strong as these 2.

I agree with the weapons , they are mostly for FF , even a damager will benefit from Gringo weapons even it has HP. The rifle is one of the best if not the best in Adventures , you have a lot of HP , a lot of Dodge , a lot of aim and a lot of Charisma for critical hits , all in all its good in all aspects. Dueling weapon is also good if its upgraded but with todays sets you can get a better dueling weapon with high damage for duels. The animal set is good but it couldve been better if the speed of the horse was more than 280%.

In general , Gringo is a very broken set which can give you TONS of skill points just for wearing the set , lets say you are level 20ish , you will be able to work in the middle with Gringo clothes and like i said at some point you will have so many skill points just by wearing the set , if it gives me 4200 skill points at level 187 imagine at level 220 and above!

They can start making some national events, not only on international speed servers. Gap would be smaller between gringo people and non gringo ones. After that it would become kinda high end basic equipment meaning space for better sets. But, as we have seen, Black Friday set is still with the same price to buy compared to Conte set which is less expensive and better. Again, logic..... Most of gringo is won during events when dobby wasnt that popular and well known. So, maybe small % of winner are legit winners I would say.
I agree , we need more national events and the way of winning Gringo should not be only for the hardcore 15s clickers , they should give equal opportunities to every aspect of the game , Adventures , Crafting , Experience , Duels , FF's , Achievements , Construction and even some special categories.

InnoGames doesnt reduce the price of old sets , like you said Black Friday is still the same price but compared to Comte set which is less expensive and way better , they dont reduce the prices because of collectors , collectors will not care if the price is the same as 10 years old which is sad , in reality , they care a lot about collectors hence you see such high prices on old sets , a normal person will not waste so much money for a set that was released 5-10 years ago but collectors will throw their money like its nothing and thats what InnoGames is constantly doing because they are players that do that every time sadly.

InnoGames POV: We release a set and we price it at 2800 nuggets , after 3-5 years , we make another similar but better set thats more tha half the price of the other 1200 nuggets. Surely this community is so dumb that they think we will hear their feedback , we will not , hence, we will leave the price of the old set as it is with a small 5-10% discount but also sell the new one in a much more reasonable price. 90% of the players will buy Comte on a new world ( 70-75% on old worlds ) , more than 80% will buy Black Friday on a new world ( 60-70% on old worlds ) and more than 65% will buy both ( 50% on old worlds ) , its a win win situation for them.
 

Emma Swan

Corporal
Well, they do the opposite of our suggestions, so we can maybe ask opposit of our desires. Next time, if they are going to release rubbish, lets just ask to buff it less so that tye will buff it more. As for nugget sets, I suggest Friday set for 15000 nuggets, oposite could be 150. No idea how to convert it into InnoGames language....
 

Uchiha Madara

Master Sergeant
Something I wanted to add regarding collectors.

Disclaimer: I'm in no place to argue about someone's economic advantage or disadvantage, It's just my opinion, don't get hurt.


I really don't understand what you gain from having everything in this pixel game which will eventually die in a few years. I tried to be a collector too , though since my current account is active since 2020 , there's not much I can do about very old items unless I'm the luckiest person to find those items. I have managed to almost collect all sets in the game , only a few are remaining which are premium sets mostly. I will never be able to get the event free sets either.

My point is , a set that has been released 5-7-10 years ago should not be the same price as it was , there has to be at least a discount of 25-50% on these sets. One very good example of why I stopped being a collector or rather stop trying to be one , is when I first saw the Venomous snake price at Black Friday , 4000 nuggets for a snake that gives what 5-10 skills. I don't even know when that item got released but I'm sure it has to be earlier than 2016? Maybe at that time it was very good to gain extra 10 skills but with today's sets you can get x10 of that number without even spending a since cent. Even if you think about it collection wise , 4000 nuggets for a single item is absurd. I rather waste 4000 nuggets in replenishing my energy with 18 nuggets than buy that snake, though I wouldn't even do that, 4000 nuggets for a pixel game is way to much, sure if you like to feel strong you can go ahead and buy whatever you have to to become one but in reality this game is mostly based on RNG so even if you spent tons of money you won't see the big difference you would've hoped for PVP wise.
 
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