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Independence Day 2019 discussion

Discussion in 'Saloon' started by Leones, Jun 19, 2019.

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  1. Leones

    Leones The West Team

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    It is so nice that you guys have listened to the playing community again and have included (again) glossy premium chest in the very rare category. It has been said and asked million times to remove this rubbish from that category as it worth nothing anymore. This is not 2003 anymore. The very rare independence day chest including items from last years event in very rare category is somewhat of a joke too. Considering how OP sets have become with each new event, last years independence stuff is now worth less then a toilet paper. Players will be over the moon no doubt when they happen to get something from Adams, Dickson or Hancock set from the 800 spin.
    Also, the amount oof worthless chests in the rare and uncommon category is mind boggling. Iron clad, fancy chest in the uncommon category will no doubt have a much more common drop rate then other items, same goes for unique and noble chests in the rare category.

    Way to go InnoGames. Lets buy some nuggets, spin like hell and get last years items, iron clad, fancy, unique and noble chests as rewards. Cant wait to get started.
     
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    ^ Totally agree.


    And the "Tank" set is, disappointing at best. A very slightly upgraded version of weakling Adams set.
    Will do nothing to help with the issues we've been facing for a good while now.

    Stat bonuses are okay-ish, but 70 resist (Adams give 60) is a very unfunny joke.
    I mean, Damages increased by "10" since the last year or am I missing something??
    (Not even mentioning the fact that Hp already lowering it)

    Like I said before, it's just an another set to feed the ever-hungry damagers. Only, more so now.


    Come to the present already InnoGames games!
     
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  4. Heavy and metal

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    The event is not one of those kids game at a fair where you win some random toy regardless if you fail the challenge or not. Take it as a gamble, you can win some good stuff,some less good stuff or nothing at all,so stop expecting everything to be spoon fed to you.

    And yes, everyone knows,new tank set is awful, stop whining about it already,it gets just as annoying as these stupid sets you whine about.
     
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    Everyone? Where is those everyone?
    Maybe if those "everyone" was to speak instead of just sitting, accepting AND KEEP PAYING, maybe we could have some changes.

    Call it whatever you will, I will keep saying the bitter truth which almost no one dares/bothers to say.
     
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    The 2.103 changelog stated how hard you have been working to implement features we requested in the event this year, so I'll take a moment to talk about that first.
    Credit where it's due, I do like daily quests that reward event currency and the new contest chests, those events are usually fun and good for the individual worlds. Changing the sending friends fireworks every 23h instead of every 24h is awesome. Avatar parts are always nice too!

    The changes to the reward pool are what exactly, removed a couple of old junk gear chests but not all of them? There's lots of fancy new powerful buffs that would be much better than old gear, from chests that I can buy from the shop if i have such an inclination. I don't want non-tombola stuff in my tombola, it feels like a complete loss of either money in the form of nuggets, or time in the form of fireworks, but I understand you can't "win" every time since you are making us gamble as the main game-play mechanic for improving your character. So no, I do not like your changes, mystical changelog.

    Well here we go boys, the sets.
    Robert R. Livingston's set
    Here it is, the set we've been waiting for: The first set for tanks since Adams 1 year ago. What a disappointment. Rather than just whine, i'll try to talk about it constructively
    It's a big, meaty, glass wall of a set, designed in such a way that any top leadership players who see this must drooling right now. It offers resistance along with Health, completely disregarding how those mechanics actually work. It was an okay-ish attempt at making a set for tanks since you gave it the right type of skills, but I fear the values will still be far too low to compete with damage sets. 2/10

    What to do? Well it's kinda hard to say without seeing how it compares to the year-old Adams set in-game, where I can take/dodge about 30-80 shots depending on how many crits I take to the face, but I would keep the resistance and then take the +10 and +5 fort battle defence bonus from the Roger Sherman's set and add it onto Robert's, and then make that number even higher for a start.

    Roger Sherman's set

    Not really sure what this set is? Adventures maybe? 0/10
    Cute dog though 10/10

    Alexander Hamilton's set

    Seems like a fairly strong exp melee set, i'd use it. I don't duel anymore so don't really know enough to comment here.

    The patriot's's set

    It's a really strong exp set, well designed to get people to pay up for it. Beware the power-creep.
     
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  7. Heavy and metal

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    It's a hyperbole which means that the use of "everyone" refers to a large number of players. No one sits and pay, those "everyone" have been playing for long enough to know that crying 24/7 won't fix a damn thing.

    You want changes? How about you start talking about those veteran players who have been screwed over since 2012 by the thing you keep demanding: OP sets for whatever class and other tombola crap. I wouldn't expect you to understand, you're probably the kind of player that join every new world that InnoGames opens and immediately quits it when yet another is opened.

    I've gotten to the point where I've accepted that this game will never be as good as it was,nor anywhere near it...but it just keeps annoying me when I open the forum or the saloon and see njub players demanding sets
     
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    Too much assumptions and arrogance here but I will answer anyway.

    I talk with those players every day and night so don't you worry about what I do or do not know/understand.

    And no, I only play in one server and plan to keep it that way.

    Already done enough of suggestions as well.
    30 perhaps. 80? Nada.
    Not when Duelers and Workers almost never miss anyway.
    Ah, I wish.

    Honestly I was expecting an upgraded/enhanced Cortes set but would be better mixing 2 sets :D
     
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    Assumption based on years of playing the game,new sets won't fix a damn thing.
    Arrogance? Nope,just pissed at njubs


    What players do you talk to? The ones that have joined the game in the last 3-5 years who can't spend a day in the game without their tombola sets...and maybe two or three veterans. You keep demanding sets to counter union using duelers but I can tell you with 99.99 certainty that it won't fix a damn thing. One thing will happen and that is a tank set comes out and soon after yet another duelers set will come out and so on and on. Sets will only sprout out new sets...but I guess that's no different than the current situation
     
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    Man I get you, I'm one of those players. I'm probably one of the biggest fans of this game in the world, and I've watched it be destroyed by the tombolas. It's my strong opinion that the game isn't worth playing at the moment, but I don't seem to be able to give up hope that someone will step in at some point and try to fix all this. But as it stands, there's no chance that will happen, and the current manager is content to try to balance fort battle using tombola sets, so we do what we can to try to make battles a little less crap.
     
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    I've played this game when it's first came out, and I loved it without this ever growing OP sets on steroids!

    So we all agreed that Sets are only temporary "solutions" , but since they aint changing/balancing Formulas/Rewards, at least give Tanks some propers sets!

    Generous with Damager sets, stingy with Tank sets is what we are talking about.

    Ps. Check here before assuming stuff about me, or anyone else.
     
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    Temporary? Yeah ok, 7 years is temporary

    Ok,so let's get a tank set to counter those who use union...what happens to those players ( duelers)who don't have union? How well do you think they will do against players who will be using this new tank set. I'll tell ya, they won't hit a damn thing. Call it assumptions but I've seen too many players like you and you all think alike...never thinking of the bigger picture,of those free to play players who are not willing to engage in the PwP parts of this game because of sets they can't compete against.

    So, sorry if my comments are too harsh,but I just can't stand players demanding sets

    You're the Iceman junior of this game,and that's self explanatory
     
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    Temporary: 3-6 months until new ones come out. I was referring to what you said.

    So we can't request a proper Tank set but Union set is to stay? :D

    You happen to ignore the other side of the coin that, Tanks who don't have that "dream set"
    I guess someone didn't notice how awful Defense battles became just because no one can survive a round on Point.

    We are not the ones not noticing the Bigger picture, it's InnoGames.

    We all agreed on how worse and worse game became with every new (Damager) set, Union officer being the final nail in the coffin.
     
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    Request all you want, I'm sure sooner or later a tank set will be released ,so good luck to you and all of those "we" when you'll have 20 defenders using this tank set and 20 attackers using union set. Will be so fun!

    You seem to ignore what I already said. More sets won't solve a thing. I'm also well aware of how fort defense suck.
    I play on a different server where more than 50% of fitters are duelers and probably half of that use union yet we have won most defenses we had (with actual even numbers). It's all in the strategy and tactic of the leading (yes! turns out they're still kinda impactful).

    Already said, you're not looking at the bigger picture, always thinking short term instead of long term.

    But I've gone off topic already and I've spend more time typing on this forum than I ever did.

    I'll see ya on the next new world InnoGames will open (P S. I won't be there)
     
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    Oh there already 2 new of those (Free and Nugget) , and both seems to be "Meh" at best.
    We all got that, do you read? I played this game when it's first came out dude, I know what it was then and what it became now.

    But too bad, there already some more new Sets. Whether they are far from balancing the situation or not.
    Oh please teach us almighty, wise one!
     
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    A free set has never and will never be as good as a nugget set, regardless of whatever set you're referring to.

    Are you sure you got it? I don't think you did...in fact, I don't think you ever will. Your whole experience of "getting that" is limited to deciding what tombola set to use next. I call bs on you playing the game since it was opened; either that or you haven't learnt anything in all of these supposed years of playing.

    And lastly,where exactly in what I said gives the impression that I was referring to myself when I talked about strategy and tactics... but then again I don't think you have such things on those new worlds of yours.
     
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    As some real feedback considering the event, clean up the 3rd category.
    Last year it was near impossible if you wanted to complete a set if you missed like a shirts or pants.
    Remove some of the useless chests or move the boots to the 2nd category.
    If you need a certain items you have a 1 in 22 chance to get it!

    I will have to admit the 'free set' is very nice for new worlds that lack a real xp or money set.
     
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    Ah yes, "I know/understand it all, you know nothing" guy with so much arrogance and many more assumptions :)

    "You this you that, you, you, you" :D

    Pity, moving on :)
     
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    You're probably the biggest njub I've ever had the miss fortune of arguing with. I've already told you now things stand but it's just damn hard for you to understand.

    Move on, I'm sure that you and your tombola dependant friends will have more fun than I will at forts.

    Sigh...
     
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    I do believe you are seriously misreading raiders feelings about tombolas. We are all on the same side here. Obviously he's aware they have been nothing but a detriment to the The West, and I've personally told him the danger of suggesting new stronger sets for InnoGames to release.

    At the same time sets are the only balancing method etriel is willing to try it seems, so we have to do what we can to keep her in check, or union officer fiesta will just happen all over again but with tanks. Short of formula and gear rebalancing, the only thing we can do is try to make the sets usable and competitive against the 2 modern damager sets.

    So while I hate tombolas more than I hate nubs arguing with the wrong person about a misperception of their feelings towards the death of the West, we're stuck with them for the foreseeable future.
     
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