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Easter Event 2024 Sets - Feedback

Uchiha Madara

Master Sergeant
I think we still can calculate number for level 150. If you say we dont know what we are talking about, assuming you mean all of us expect you, I can say also, that SOME players dont understand, that numbers in FF doesnt mean much. Why they added more HP? Because thats the only way how to stay longer alive. Why they added leadership? Because tank needs to make some higher dmg as well not 450. Resistance is useless so dont count that at all. Bonus defence +7? Really is that OP? Have you compared Leavenworth to Cortina and how it does/nt work at FF? Making drama, because they raised leadership for almost 100% is funny to me. Why? Why I am saying it needs more leadership and dodging? The answer is simple. Have you seen set 3? Its made for attack, yes, BUT ALSO FOR DEFENCE. So now Imagine that you are attacking sure with that se tin your sector, but you are standing against usually 2 towers with that set on it as well. Meaning dont count on it as a help because its not. So What you are comparing to is Astor set usually. Astor gives you I guess +6 attack from clothes, +5.5 attack horse and I believe +4.5 attack guns meaning you have +16 attack.... Bull had +12 defense. Than you have sets with +attack and +dmg sector bonus. Thats why tank sets needs to be too strong on paper so that during the FF you feel improvement.

Leavenworth is weak too and nobody will change my mind. It should have 80% more HP and leaderships as well.

So, I dare to disagree with you. Players, who wrote 1st set is still weak meant exactly that, its still weak.

And by adding aim to 3rd set, low level duelist can take this set, will still be able to hit, will give you bonus on fort, will crit, will even help dmger dodge 1 round probably untill tank comes. Hope you wont take it as fight, but you are wrong. Do you remeber what you said when I said Leavenworth is too weak and you said I dont knwo what I am talking about its too OP? Then 1 week after leavenworth appeared in FF, sousa put it down as cake lol. And players complained it needs to be buffed because they dont feel improvement from cortina that much. So, once again, if you feel that players here dont know how to calculate 0.55 x level, well .... thats disrespectful to be honest.

PS: Lets nerfed this set so that we can cry 1 month later and begging for new tank set lol. Such a joke :D
I'd have to agree with both you and @WhyN0t , the set is good as it is now but let's be honest here, the set needs more dodging and more hiding. It's cool to have more HP but is it better? I don't think so because with no dodge and no hiding the HP won't matter much because of Duelers high damage input and especially if they can crit every 3-5 rounds. More HP = stronger and higher damage from Duelers. Increasing dodging and hiding will limit tanks getting hit every round. Bare in mind that a high level Worker with bull can reach 300 defence but will still get destroyed in a few rounds. Imagine other tanks that have way less defense.
 

Emma Swan

Corporal
If they add more % to leadership, it will help in defence to every character, if they buff more dodging, Builder could be down in 5 rounds or still alive in 30. Thats why I suggested even more leadership and just some % dodge. As for crits, thats another topic thats neglected for such a long time. They raised max level 250 without even thinking that higher level hits higher dmg of course... But higher level tank doenst make that huge dodging as lower level tank. I had once as builder 445 def on my own tower, behind me 2 soldiers dmg full leadership, nobody understood why i lost 11k hp from 14.5 in 1st round. I dodged like 3 hits per that round lol. As for high hp, well thats also not ideal, but there is higher hope that you get hit by dueler with normal basic dmg rather than crit, where tanks wont crit, you usually stay alive much longer. But then you dont for no reason :D
 

dublik

Lance Corporal
Everyone is saying that the first set is weak and needs more buffs, even after the buff, so I decide to calculate final values myself and all I can say is ...
Guys, are you out of your minds?! The set is OP!

The set has these values: 4.50 hp, 3.70 dodging, 4.75 hiding, 3.15 leadership, 128 resistance, 19 defense at +0
In comparison, Bull's has: 2.55 hp, 3.10 dodging, 4.42 hiding, 1.70 leadership, 90 resistance, 12 defense at +0

If anything, this set should be nerfed to the initials values. It would still be much better than Bull's, so it would be fine.
I still think the damage and resistance formula should be changed, along with other changes like adventurer's rework, but an overpowered set like this one it would not fix anything, it would make things worse.
It is also valid for weapons, these weapons are better than Bull's which are exclusive with nuggets and this is not ok.
no nerf
 

BaggyBlue

Master Sergeant
I don't think you'll get very far at The-West :njub: I criticized our newbie! I didn't mean Emma Swan, WhyN0t, LAPPER, ayias, Uchiha Madara, Football, Miss Florida or our spirit I AM INEVITABLE! +/- Quickly write it down and goodbye, I mean!
 

Uchiha Madara

Master Sergeant
@Loki do we have any idea if they will remove some of the mentioned chests from the Easter event? It's been said multiple times over the years that some if not all chests are absolutely terrible and useless like Junk Chest, Noble Chest , Premium Chest, Incredible Chest, Big red Chest. In my opinion and I think the majority of us would only need Energy Boxes and First aid kits as these 2 are the most valuable. Instead of the other junk chests you can add Previous Year chests with sets according to the representing event.
 

kilaritul

Private
the new sets are okeys it dont need nerf or upgrades.... and for emma swan ..... i hope they make a special set for you with 10.000 leadership, 10.000 dodging ,100.000 hp and you will keep saying is weak.
 

Emma Swan

Corporal
the new sets are okeys it dont need nerf or upgrades.... and for emma swan ..... i hope they make a special set for you with 10.000 leadership, 10.000 dodging ,100.000 hp and you will keep saying is weak.
And thats one of the reason why this game is where it is without inovations. People are just okey with everything, once somebody is pushing them to do better, there is always somebody who will be like yeah whatever emma swan haha haha shut up. Why should you get every month better salary, if you can get every month the same, right? why? because ananas and tomato will make great bread :)
 

Loki

The West Team
Update:

Item​
Bonus per level​
Bonus at level 150​
Bonus at level 200​
MeleeDamage: 22-32
+1.25 Damage (per level)
+0.08 Strength (per level)
+0.08 Mobility (per level)
+0.08 Dexterity (per level)
+0.07 Charisma (per level)
+0.45 Vigor (per level)
+0.45 Toughness (per level)
+0.4 Reflex (per level)
+0.45 Aiming (per level)
+0.4 Appearance (per level)
+35% Experience
Damage: 22-32
+188 Damage
+12 Strength
+12 Mobility
+12 Dexterity
+11 Charisma
+68 Vigor
+68 Toughness
+60 Reflex
+68 Aiming
+60 Appearance
+35% Experience
Damage: 22-32
+250 Damage
+16 Strength
+16 Mobility
+16 Dexterity
+14 Charisma
+90 Vigor
+90 Toughness
+80 Reflex
+90 Aiming
+80 Appearance
+35% Experience
RangeDamage: 25-35
+1.25 Damage (per level)
+0.07 Strength (per level)
+0.08 Mobility (per level)
+0.08 Dexterity (per level)
+0.08 Charisma (per level)
+0.45 Toughness (per level)
+0.4 Reflex (per level)
+0.45 Aiming (per level)
+0.45 Shooting (per level)
+0.4 Appearance (per level)
+35% Experience
Damage: 25-35
+188 Damage
+11 Strength
+12 Mobility
+12 Dexterity
+12 Charisma
+68 Toughness
+60 Reflex
+68 Aiming
+68 Shooting
+60 Appearance
+35% Experience
Damage: 25-35
+250 Damage
+14 Strength
+16 Mobility
+16 Dexterity
+16 Charisma
+90 Toughness
+80 Reflex
+90 Aiming
+90 Shooting
+80 Appearance
+35% Experience
FortDamage: 25-45
+2.2 Damage (per Level)
+0.08 Strength (per level)
+0.08 Mobility (per level)
+0.06 Dexterity (per level)
+0.07 Charisma (per level)
+0.45 Toughness (per level)
+0.45 Reflex (per level)
+0.45 Aiming (per level)
+0.45 Tactics (per level)
+0.45 Appearance (per level)
+45% Experience
Damage: 25-45
+330 Damage
+12 Strength
+12 Mobility
+9 Dexterity
+11 Charisma
+68 Toughness
+68 Reflex
+68 Aiming
+68 Tactics
+68 Appearance
+45% Experience
Damage: 25-45
+440 Damage
+16 Strength
+16 Mobility
+12 Dexterity
+14 Charisma
+90 Toughness
+90 Reflex
+90 Aiming
+90 Tactics
+90 Appearance
+45% Experience
Weapon set bonus+0.08 Strength (per level)
+0.08 Dexterity (per level)
+0.08 Mobility (per level)
+0.08 Charisma (per level)
+0.55 Vigor (per level)
+0.65 Toughness (per level)
+0.65 Reflex (per level)
+0.75 Aiming (per level)
+0.55 Shooting (per level)
+0.65 Tactics (per level)
+0.45 Appearance (per level)
+40% Experience
+50% Money
+40% Improved product drop chance
+40% Improved Luck
+140% Speed
+240 labor points
+45 Damage (Fort battle sector bonus)
+8 Multiplayer Attack (Fort battle bonus)
+8 Multiplayer Defense (Fort battle bonus)
+45 Resistance (Fort battle bonus)
+12 Strength
+12 Dexterity
+12 Mobility
+12 Charisma
+83 Vigor
+98 Toughness
+98 Reflex
+113 Aiming
+83 Shooting
+98 Tactics
+68 Appearance
+40% Experience
+50% Money
+40% Improved product drop chance
+40% Improved Luck
+140% Speed
+240 labor points
+45 Damage (Fort battle sector bonus)
+8 Multiplayer Attack (Fort battle bonus)
+8 Multiplayer Defense (Fort battle bonus)
+45 Resistance (Fort battle bonus)
+16 Strength
+16 Dexterity
+16 Mobility
+16 Charisma
+110 Vigor
+130 Toughness
+130 Reflex
+150 Aiming
+110 Shooting
+130 Tactics
+90 Appearance
+40% Experience
+50% Money
+40% Improved product drop chance
+40% Improved Luck
+140% Speed
+240 labor points
+45 Damage (Fort battle sector bonus)
+8 Multiplayer Attack (Fort battle bonus)
+8 Multiplayer Defense (Fort battle bonus)
+45 Resistance (Fort battle bonus)
 

notundead

Private
Update:

Item​
Bonus per level​
Bonus at level 150​
Bonus at level 200​
MeleeDamage: 22-32
+1.25 Damage (per level)
+0.08 Strength (per level)
+0.08 Mobility (per level)
+0.08 Dexterity (per level)
+0.07 Charisma (per level)
+0.45 Vigor (per level)
+0.45 Toughness (per level)
+0.4 Reflex (per level)
+0.45 Aiming (per level)
+0.4 Appearance (per level)
+35% Experience
Damage: 22-32
+188 Damage
+12 Strength
+12 Mobility
+12 Dexterity
+11 Charisma
+68 Vigor
+68 Toughness
+60 Reflex
+68 Aiming
+60 Appearance
+35% Experience
Damage: 22-32
+250 Damage
+16 Strength
+16 Mobility
+16 Dexterity
+14 Charisma
+90 Vigor
+90 Toughness
+80 Reflex
+90 Aiming
+80 Appearance
+35% Experience
RangeDamage: 25-35
+1.25 Damage (per level)
+0.07 Strength (per level)
+0.08 Mobility (per level)
+0.08 Dexterity (per level)
+0.08 Charisma (per level)
+0.45 Toughness (per level)
+0.4 Reflex (per level)
+0.45 Aiming (per level)
+0.45 Shooting (per level)
+0.4 Appearance (per level)
+35% Experience
Damage: 25-35
+188 Damage
+11 Strength
+12 Mobility
+12 Dexterity
+12 Charisma
+68 Toughness
+60 Reflex
+68 Aiming
+68 Shooting
+60 Appearance
+35% Experience
Damage: 25-35
+250 Damage
+14 Strength
+16 Mobility
+16 Dexterity
+16 Charisma
+90 Toughness
+80 Reflex
+90 Aiming
+90 Shooting
+80 Appearance
+35% Experience
FortDamage: 25-45
+2.2 Damage (per Level)
+0.08 Strength (per level)
+0.08 Mobility (per level)
+0.06 Dexterity (per level)
+0.07 Charisma (per level)
+0.45 Toughness (per level)
+0.45 Reflex (per level)
+0.45 Aiming (per level)
+0.45 Tactics (per level)
+0.45 Appearance (per level)
+45% Experience
Damage: 25-45
+330 Damage
+12 Strength
+12 Mobility
+9 Dexterity
+11 Charisma
+68 Toughness
+68 Reflex
+68 Aiming
+68 Tactics
+68 Appearance
+45% Experience
Damage: 25-45
+440 Damage
+16 Strength
+16 Mobility
+12 Dexterity
+14 Charisma
+90 Toughness
+90 Reflex
+90 Aiming
+90 Tactics
+90 Appearance
+45% Experience
Weapon set bonus+0.08 Strength (per level)
+0.08 Dexterity (per level)
+0.08 Mobility (per level)
+0.08 Charisma (per level)
+0.55 Vigor (per level)
+0.65 Toughness (per level)
+0.65 Reflex (per level)
+0.75 Aiming (per level)
+0.55 Shooting (per level)
+0.65 Tactics (per level)
+0.45 Appearance (per level)
+40% Experience
+50% Money
+40% Improved product drop chance
+40% Improved Luck
+140% Speed
+240 labor points
+45 Damage (Fort battle sector bonus)
+8 Multiplayer Attack (Fort battle bonus)
+8 Multiplayer Defense (Fort battle bonus)
+45 Resistance (Fort battle bonus)
+12 Strength
+12 Dexterity
+12 Mobility
+12 Charisma
+83 Vigor
+98 Toughness
+98 Reflex
+113 Aiming
+83 Shooting
+98 Tactics
+68 Appearance
+40% Experience
+50% Money
+40% Improved product drop chance
+40% Improved Luck
+140% Speed
+240 labor points
+45 Damage (Fort battle sector bonus)
+8 Multiplayer Attack (Fort battle bonus)
+8 Multiplayer Defense (Fort battle bonus)
+45 Resistance (Fort battle bonus)
+16 Strength
+16 Dexterity
+16 Mobility
+16 Charisma
+110 Vigor
+130 Toughness
+130 Reflex
+150 Aiming
+110 Shooting
+130 Tactics
+90 Appearance
+40% Experience
+50% Money
+40% Improved product drop chance
+40% Improved Luck
+140% Speed
+240 labor points
+45 Damage (Fort battle sector bonus)
+8 Multiplayer Attack (Fort battle bonus)
+8 Multiplayer Defense (Fort battle bonus)
+45 Resistance (Fort battle bonus)
Love it, can't wait to spend some nuggets! :D
 

Emma Swan

Corporal
Any chance to make bonus set 60% XP instead of 40%, and higher dmg range? Since you cant upgrade it and clearly these are made for dueling, 35-45 for dueling, 45-55 for FF? No one will go to FF with that anyway, but, winner should feel as winner. Also, labor point 300? octoberfest had 275 if I am not wrong. I would also make set bonus appearance even with tactics, thus instead of 0,45 to 0.65?

Rest is more than good! Oh, I would also make them shiny so that you can find them easier in inventary. I would add shiny update to all event winner sets to be honest.
 

BaggyBlue

Master Sergeant
+45 Damage (Fort battle sector bonus) +8 Multiplayer Attack (Fort battle bonus) +8 Multiplayer Defense (Fort battle bonus) +45 Resistance (Fort battle bonus) I don't know where you can see the dueling? Winner Set is a mixed fighting set :blink:
 

BaggyBlue

Master Sergeant
Any chance to make bonus set 60% XP instead of 40%, and higher dmg range? Since you cant upgrade it and clearly these are made for dueling, 35-45 for dueling, 45-55 for FF? No one will go to FF with that anyway, but, winner should feel as winner. Also, labor point 300? octoberfest had 275 if I am not wrong. I would also make set bonus appearance even with tactics, thus instead of 0,45 to 0.65?
Oh, sarcasm? Thought if I couldn't read anymore :njub:
 
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