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Valentine's Day 2024 - Discussion

Emma Swan

Corporal
Okey, so that I am not negative about that weird soldier op again dueling set, horseride of Sehoy's set looks extremely good visualy. Are those items going to give its own bonus, or only bonus of set? If horse gives 20% additional XP than we are happy...ish :)

Just remove soldiers tactics jesus. When you have as soldier 1000 tactics just from set, with bonus its 1500. Do we have dueling set that gives you 1500 appearance? No, you have to add it into it meaning you are lacking skills for something else. Meanwhile soldier can put it all into appearance and win attack as well. Hope somebody understand why I am angry at this particular dueling set. But more I am angry that 99% of players are complaining about soldiers tactics and you are like nevermind lets give him better set to boost that tactics even more :D
 

dublik

Lance Corporal
Can you swap the shooting and vigor bonuses on sehoy's melee/ranged duel weapon? Also Sehoy's kife & necklacke
 

Loki

The West Team
We have made a new revision for the Cowboy in love's set:

Item​
Bonus per level​
Bonus at level 150​
Bonus at level 200​
Hat+0.035 Strength (per level)
+0.035 Charisma (per level)
+0.50 Toughness (per level)
+0.30 Health Points (per level)
+0.45 Aiming (per level)
+6 Strength
+6 Charisma
+75 Toughness
+45 Health Points
+68 Aiming
+7 Strength
+7 Charisma
+100 Toughness
+60 Health Points
+90 Aiming
Neck+0.045 Strength (per level)
+0.035 Charisma (per level)
+0.35 Toughness (per level)
+0.45 Aiming (per level)
+0.50 Vigor (per level)
+5% Experience from jobs, duels and fort battles
+7 Strength
+6 Charisma
+53 Toughness
+68 Aiming
+75 Vigor
+5% Experience from jobs, duels and fort battles
+9 Strength
+7 Charisma
+70 Toughness
+90 Aiming
+100 Vigor
+5% Experience from jobs, duels and fort battles
Body+0.065 Strength (per level)
+0.035 Mobility (per level)
+0.045 Charisma (per level)
+0.55 Toughness (per level)
+0.40 Reflex (per level)
+0.55 Aiming (per level)
+0.30 Tactics (per level)
+5% Experience from jobs, duels and fort battles
+10 Strength
+6 Mobility
+7 Charisma
+83 Toughness
+60 Reflex
+83 Aiming
+45 Tactics
+5% Experience from jobs, duels and fort battles
+13 Strength
+7 Mobility
+9 Charisma
+110 Toughness
+80 Reflex
+110 Aiming
+60 Tactics
+5% Experience from jobs, duels and fort battles
Belt+0.055 Strength (per level)
+0.035 Charisma (per level)
+0.55 Toughness (per level)
+0.35 Health Points (per level)
+0.45 Aiming (per level)
+0.25 Tactics (per level)
+5% Experience from jobs, duels and fort battles
+9 Strength
+6 Charisma
+83 Toughness
+53 Health Points
+68 Aiming
+38 Tactics
+5% Experience from jobs, duels and fort battles
+11 Strength
+7 Charisma
+110 Toughness
+70 Health Points
+90 Aiming
+50 Tactics
+5% Experience from jobs, duels and fort battles
Pants+0.065 Strength (per level)
+0.035 Mobility (per level)
+0.035 Charisma (per level)
+0.45 Toughness (per level)
+0.55 Reflex (per level)
+0.50 Aiming (per level)
+0.30 Vigor (per level)
+5% Experience from jobs, duels and fort battles
+10 Strength
+6 Mobility
+6 Charisma
+68 Toughness
+83 Reflex
+75 Aiming
+45 Vigor
+5% Experience from jobs, duels and fort battles
+13 Strength
+7 Mobility
+7 Charisma
+90 Toughness
+110 Reflex
+100 Aiming
+60 Vigor
+5% Experience from jobs, duels and fort battles
Shoes+0.045 Strength (per level)
+0.025 Mobility (per level)
+0.025 Charisma (per level)
+0.45 Toughness (per level)
+0.55 Aiming (per level)
+0.45 Vigor (per level)
+7 Strength
+4 Mobility
+4 Charisma
+68 Toughness
+83 Aiming
+68 Vigor
+9 Strength
+5 Mobility
+5 Charisma
+90 Toughness
+110 Aiming
+90 Vigor
Clothes set bonus (for all items)+0.11 Strength (per level)
+0.11 Mobility (per level)
+0.11 Charisma (per level)
+1 Toughness (per level)
+0.7 Vigor (per level)
+1 Aiming (per level)
+0.4 Tactics (per level)
+50% Experience from jobs, duels and fort battles
+17 Strength
+17 Mobility
+17 Charisma
+150 Toughness
+105 Vigor
+150 Aiming
+60 Tactics
+50% Experience from jobs, duels and fort battles
+22 Strength
+22 Mobility
+22 Charisma
+200 Toughness
+140 Vigor
+200 Aiming
+80 Tactics
+50% Experience from jobs, duels and fort battles

What do you think of these new changes?
 

Emma Swan

Corporal
This is way better. Please send a greeting from us and tell them, that unless they change soldier, every upcoming dueling set consisting of tactics and health point at the same time is pain for the rest of characters. Its kind of difficult, should you focus on appearance and defeat tactics, or should you focus on resistance so that you can hit beyond that and give possibly KO, or you wanna focus on heads in its full power to reduce its high hp? You can be stronger than resistance, you can focus on hp, sometimes at the same time but you are automaticaly loosing appearance from clothing. As for tactics, not possible without reskill or good resistance ATTACK set. And if you make next attack set with strong appearance, you may be able to put soldier down [20x in the row if because of stupid FF system has that soldier full hp], but other characters have no chance to defend themselves because they cant put tactics that high as soldier with its bonus so they have to put some points into the tactics then. Its neverending problem circling.

Again, if you dont want to make smart changes about characters, at least remove soldiers tactic bonus completely, you will avoid future problems with ever single dueling set. Or give 1,0 Health point per level max in each set. If you like adding HP to sets, give it to working set instead. Workers are attacked everytime in working set, so if they have more hp and some very strong duelist attack cortez for example, poor worker can still live and maybe give that duel back. There should go your HP. I mean we still need to use hat from the town shop because in pearl or vaquero or jaguar we have practically hp for 3 hits lol :D

long story short, about this set:

I would say to replace tactics with appearance if soldiers tactics will not be gone in next changelog. If yes, leave it as it is.
 
I would change shoes and put reflex instead of vigor.

Also reduce the full set bonus its op scaling at 5/6 items.

Overal good changes nice InnoGames good job
 
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