Holiday Set 2023 - Feedback

[Loki]

Howdy Cowgirls & Cowboys,​

we're approaching December, and the festive season is right around the corner!

Take a look at the suggested Holiday Set and share your thoughts on what changes you would make and how.

Spoiler: Holiday Set

Item​	Bonus per level​	Bonus at level 150​	Bonus at level 200​
Hat​	+0.023 Strength (per level) +0.045 Mobility (per level) +0.033 Dexterity (per level) +0.45 Horseback Riding (per level) +0.45 Swimming (per level) +0.3 Tactics (per level) +0.1% Improved Luck (per level)	+4 Strength +7 Mobility +5 Dexterity +68 Horseback Riding +68 Swimming +45 Tactics +15% Improved Luck	+5 Strength +9 Mobility +7 Dexterity +90 Horseback Riding +90 Swimming +60 Tactics +20% Improved Luck
Neck​	+0.025 Strength (per level) +0.042 Mobility (per level) +0.035 Charisma (per level) +0.45 Construction (per level) +0.45 Repairing (per level) +0.3 Tactics (per level) +0.1% Improved Luck (per level)	+4 Strength +7 Mobility +6 Charisma +68 Construction +68 Repairing +45 Tactics +15% Improved Luck	+5 Strength +9 Mobility +7 Charisma +90 Construction +90 Repairing +60 Tactics +20% Improved Luck
Body​	+0.05 Strength (per level) +0.065 Mobility (per level) +0.055 Dexterity (per level) +0.06 Charisma (per level) +0.6 Construction (per level) +0.6 Horseback Riding (per level) +0.4 Swimming (per level) +0.4 Repairing (per level) +0.1% Improved Luck (per level)	+8 Strength +10 Mobility +8 Dexterity +9 Charisma +90 Construction +90 Horseback Riding +60 Swimming +60 Repairing +15% Improved Luck	+10 Strength +13 Mobility +11 Dexterity +12 Charisma +120 Construction +120 Horseback Riding +80 Swimming +80 Repairing +20% Improved Luck
Belt​	+0.05 Strength (per level) +0.06 Mobility (per level) +0.05 Dexterity (per level) +0.05 Charisma (per level) +0.45 Construction (per level) +0.45 Swimming (per level) +0.55 Repairing (per level) +0.3 Tactics (per level) +0.1% Improved Luck (per level)	+8 Strength +9 Mobility +8 Dexterity +8 Charisma +68 Construction +68 Swimming +83 Repairing +45 Tactics +15% Improved Luck	+10 Strength +12 Mobility +10 Dexterity +10 Charisma +90 Construction +90 Swimming +110 Repairing +60 Tactics +20% Improved Luck
Pants​	+0.045 Strength (per level) +0.053 Mobility (per level) +0.045 Dexterity (per level) +0.053 Charisma (per level) +0.45 Construction (per level) +0.45 Horseback Riding (per level) +0.55 Swimming (per level) +0.3 Tactics (per level) +0.1% Improved Luck (per level)	+7 Strength +8 Mobility +7 Dexterity +8 Charisma +68 Construction +68 Horseback Riding +83 Swimming +45 Tactics +15% Improved Luck	+9 Strength +11 Mobility +9 Dexterity +11 Charisma +90 Construction +90 Horseback Riding +110 Swimming +60 Tactics +20% Improved Luck
Shoes​	+0.045 Strength (per level) +0.05 Mobility (per level) +0.05 Dexterity (per level) +0.045 Charisma (per level) +0.45 Horseback Riding (per level) +0.5 Swimming (per level) +0.55 Repairing (per level) +0.35 Tactics (per level) +0.1% Improved Luck (per level)	+7 Strength +8 Mobility +8 Dexterity +7 Charisma +68 Horseback Riding +75 Swimming +83 Repairing +53 Tactics +15% Improved Luck	+9 Strength +10 Mobility +10 Dexterity +9 Charisma +90 Horseback Riding +100 Swimming +110 Repairing +70 Tactics +20% Improved Luck
Clothes set bonus (for all items)​	+0.1 Strength (per level) +0.1 Mobility (per level) +0.1 Dexterity (per level) +0.1 Charisma (per level) +0.9 Construction (per level) +0.9 Horseback Riding (per level) +0.9 Swimming (per level) +0.9 Repairing (per level) +0.9 Tactics (per level) +180 labor points +80% Improved Luck +220 labor points Work as an Archaeologist	+15 Strength +15 Mobility +15 Dexterity +15 Charisma +135 Construction +135 Horseback Riding +135 Swimming +135 Repairing +135 Tactics +180 labor points +80% Improved Luck +220 labor points Work as an Archaeologist	+20 Strength +20 Mobility +20 Dexterity +20 Charisma +180 Construction +180 Horseback Riding +180 Swimming +180 Repairing +180 Tactics +180 labor points +80% Improved Luck +220 labor points Work as an Archaeologist

Item​	Bonus per level​	Bonus at level 150​	Bonus at level 200​
Animal​	+250% Speed +0.04 Strength (per level) +0.04 Mobility (per level) +0.04 Dexterity (per level) +0.45 Horseback Riding (per level) +0.45 Swimming (per level) +0.35 Repairing (per level) +0.1% Improved Luck (per level)	+250% Speed +6 Strength +6 Mobility +6 Dexterity +68 Horseback Riding +68 Swimming +53 Repairing +15% Improved Luck	+250% Speed +8 Strength +8 Mobility +8 Dexterity +90 Horseback Riding +90 Swimming +70 Repairing +20% Improved Luck
Yield​	+0.04 Strength (per level) +0.04 Mobility (per level) +0.04 Charisma (per level) +0.45 Construction (per level) +0.35 Repairing (per level) +0.45 Tactics (per level) +0.1% Improved Luck (per level)	+6 Strength +6 Mobility +6 Charisma +68 Construction +53 Repairing +68 Tactics +15% Improved Luck	+8 Strength +8 Mobility +8 Charisma +90 Construction +70 Repairing +90 Tactics +20% Improved Luck
Animal + yield set bonus​	+0.04 Strength (per level) +0.045 Mobility (per level) +0.04 Dexterity (per level) +0.045 Charisma (per level) +0.5 Construction (per level) +0.5 Horseback Riding (per level) +0.5 Swimming (per level) +0.5 Repairing (per level) +0.5 Tactics (per level) +100 labor points +40% Improved Luck +120 labor points Work as an Archaeologist	+6 Strength +7 Mobility +6 Dexterity +7 Charisma +75 Construction +75 Horseback Riding +75 Swimming +75 Repairing +75 Tactics +100 labor points +40% Improved Luck +120 labor points Work as an Archaeologist	+8 Strength +9 Mobility +8 Dexterity +9 Charisma +100 Construction +100 Horseback Riding +100 Swimming +100 Repairing +100 Tactics +100 labor points +40% Improved Luck +120 labor points Work as an Archaeologist

Item​	Bonus per level​	Bonus at level 150​	Bonus at level 200​
Melee​	Damage 15 - 25 +1.1 Damage (per Level) +0.04 Strength (per level) +0.04 Charisma (per level) +0.35 Construction (per level) +0.35 Swimming (per level) +0.35 Tactics (per level) +0.08% Improved Luck (per level)	Damage 15 - 25 +165 Damage +6 Strength +6 Charisma +53 Construction +53 Swimming +53 Tactics +12% Improved Luck	Damage 15 - 25 +220 Damage +8 Strength +8 Charisma +70 Construction +70 Swimming +70 Tactics +16% Improved Luck
Range​	Damage 15 - 25 +1.1 Damage (per Level) +0.04 Mobility (per level) +0.04 Dexterity (per level) +0.35 Horseback Riding (per level) +0.35 Repairing (per level) +0.35 Tactics (per level) +0.08% Improved Luck (per level)	Damage 15 - 25 +165 Damage +6 Mobility +6 Dexterity +53 Horseback Riding +53 Repairing +53 Tactics +12% Improved Luck	Damage 15 - 25 +220 Damage +8 Mobility +8 Dexterity +70 Horseback Riding +70 Repairing +70 Tactics +16% Improved Luck
Fort​	Damage 20 - 40 +2.15 Damage (per Level) +0.04 Strength (per level) +0.045 Mobility (per level) +0.04 Dexterity (per level) +0.04 Charisma (per level) +0.45 Construction (per level) +0.45 Horseback Riding (per level) +0.45 Swimming (per level) +0.45 Repairing (per level) +0.12% Improved Luck (per level)	Damage 20 - 40 +323 Damage +6 Strength +7 Mobility +6 Dexterity +6 Charisma +68 Construction +68 Horseback Riding +68 Swimming +68 Repairing +18% Improved Luck	Damage 20 - 40 +430 Damage +8 Strength +9 Mobility +8 Dexterity +8 Charisma +90 Construction +90 Horseback Riding +90 Swimming +90 Repairing +24% Improved Luck
Weapon set bonus​	+0.04 Strength (per level) +0.045 Mobility (per level) +0.045 Dexterity (per level) +0.04 Charisma (per level) +0.5 Construction (per level) +0.5 Horseback Riding (per level) +0.5 Swimming (per level) +0.5 Repairing (per level) +0.5 Tactics (per level) +100 labor points +40% Improved Luck +120 labor points Work as an Archaeologist	+6 Strength +7 Mobility +7 Dexterity +6 Charisma +75 Construction +75 Horseback Riding +75 Swimming +75 Repairing +75 Tactics +100 labor points +40% Improved Luck +120 labor points Work as an Archaeologist	+8 Strength +9 Mobility +9 Dexterity +8 Charisma +100 Construction +100 Horseback Riding +100 Swimming +100 Repairing +100 Tactics +100 labor points +40% Improved Luck +120 labor points Work as an Archaeologist

We are looking forward to see your feedback!

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Yours sincerely,

Loki​

Community Manager

 

[ayias]

Increase the xp of fort battles, change the veteran shop, stop putting new sets ffs ..

 

[TadschMahal]

finally a set for arch - thank u for that
but i think u need to make it a bit better - like atleast 15% on each skill except luck.. and compared to helens set it lacks some money bonus.. the luck bonus is a bit better than helens but we dont need more than 300% luck.. just give it some money bonus too as helens has it too...
with other luck sets for gunsaleman and gold digger its near to impossible to get 5 pickaxes atm even if you have lvl 3/4 sets...
on old luck jobs it was possible to get 5 golden with reeves at lato even if u were like 40 levels below cause it was so good... if u make the set 15% better its still not possible to get 5 golden ones - sure those players who are 210+ can reach 5 golden ones when they upgrade the set by a lot but the majority is not even close to lvl 200...

 

[WhyN0t]

This set needs more luck for set bonus for 2 and 3 items and less luck for 5 and 6.
2 items - 40%
3 items - 60%
4 items - 80%
5 items - 80% and more labour points
6 items - 80% and even more labour points

 

[dublik]

last year we had a luck set on xmas, if you wanna push this at least give it more scaling on skills and a bit more luck, right now seems a bit weak.

 

[TadschMahal]

last year we had a luck set on xmas, if you wanna push this at least give it more scaling on skills and a bit more luck, right now seems a bit weak.

more skills is good but it does not need more luck - with 300+ luck u are guranteed to get one item per hour.. u wont get more if the set has more luck and for 15 sec it does not really matter if u have 10% or 11% dropchance per 15 sec for one item

 

[Uchiha Madara]

This is a great set for obviously Arch because the skills are exactly for that , it was about time to have a set specific for that job. What I would change and this goes for my previous suggestions too , you round up all skills given to 1.0 per level and maybe reduce the luck value just a bit to compensate that so it won't become very OP , OR just increase a bit more the luck value on individual items.

P.S. There's absolutely no need for any other bonuses than luck , luck is the most important factor for this job , no need for XP bonus or Money bonus.

 

[Gaunter O Dimm]

I think being op for pve content doesn’t really matter…
Though a not garbage set would be appreciated, I will always remember the nicks sets I found twice when I wished vaquero or cowgirl. What I mean is it’s doesn’t have to be a pain when you find Xmas set…
So I would also appreciate a $ bonus on this set, even others bonuses
I like the idea bonuses scale with level

 

[dublik]

id also increase the labor points to 500 total, from the current 380. I agree, we can leave the luck values as they are, on level 150 its 310% luck which is good. Increase the scaling of skill points and suddenly it becomes a set that is worth having when you drop it from a 2023 chest for 3 million

 

[Loki]

Update:

Item​	Bonus per level​	Bonus at level 150​	Bonus at level 200​
Clothes set bonus (for all items)​	+0.1 Strength (per level) +0.1 Mobility (per level) +0.1 Dexterity (per level) +0.1 Charisma (per level) +0.9 Construction (per level) +0.9 Horseback Riding (per level) +0.9 Swimming (per level) +0.9 Repairing (per level) +0.9 Tactics (per level) +180 labor points +80% Improved Luck +220 labor points Work as an Archaeologist	+15 Strength +15 Mobility +15 Dexterity +15 Charisma +135 Construction +135 Horseback Riding +135 Swimming +135 Repairing +135 Tactics +180 labor points +80% Improved Luck +220 labor points Work as an Archaeologist	+20 Strength +20 Mobility +20 Dexterity +20 Charisma +180 Construction +180 Horseback Riding +180 Swimming +180 Repairing +180 Tactics +180 labor points +80% Improved Luck +220 labor points Work as an Archaeologist

Items​	Bonus​
Clothes set bonus (for 2 items)​	+20% Improved Luck
Clothes set bonus (for 3 items)​	+50% Improved Luck
Clothes set bonus (for 4 items)​	+80% Improved Luck
Clothes set bonus (for 5 items)​	+80% Improved Luck +100 labor points for "Work as an Archaeologist"
Clothes set bonus (for all/6 items)​	+80% Improved Luck +220 labor points for "Work as an Archaeologist"

 

[dublik]

Update:

Items​	Bonus​
Clothes set bonus (for 2 items)​	+20% Improved Luck
Clothes set bonus (for 3 items)​	+50% Improved Luck
Clothes set bonus (for 4 items)​	+80% Improved Luck
Clothes set bonus (for 5 items)​	+80% Improved Luck +100 labor points for "Work as an Archaeologist"
Clothes set bonus (for all/6 items)​	+80% Improved Luck +220 labor points for "Work as an Archaeologist"

Suggestion:
Clothes set bonus for 5 items: 90 LP towards "Work as an Archaeologist"
Clothes set bonus for 6 items: 180 LP towards "Work as an Archaeologist"
Ride set bonus: 120 LP towards "Work as an Archaeologist"
Weapon set bonus: 120 LP towards "Work as an Archaeologist"
+ increase the skill points given by 10% for all items and set bonuses

 

[FreeHugs]

Make the rifle damage 250-525 and upgradeable. We need more interesting weapons & gears that dont break anything but just make things interesting.

Otherwise, looks ok, personally not that interested but it has its uses.

 

[TadschMahal]

Suggestion:
Clothes set bonus for 5 items: 90 LP towards "Work as an Archaeologist"
Clothes set bonus for 6 items: 180 LP towards "Work as an Archaeologist"
Ride set bonus: 120 LP towards "Work as an Archaeologist"
Weapon set bonus: 120 LP towards "Work as an Archaeologist"
+ increase the skill points given by 10% for all items and set bonuses

totally agree with that

 

[Emma Swan]

And I was thinking we are going to get some nice set not only for one job..... Why dont you add drop with that luck? That would be one nice set. Also, to make this set just for one job? Come on .... you can easily add labour points for all jobs not just for archeo.... Or are we getting jobs per work from now on? Are all set ideas used already?

 

[WhyN0t]

It's the luckiest job in the game, although the set is niche, it's not bad at all. It also works combined with 2 luck items, I like it.

 

[dublik]

i dont think there's anything wrong with having an xmas set dedicated to one job, quite the opposite, its good that InnoGames is doing this, since the whole set will be auctionable and its for the best luck job in the game.

 

[Deleted User - 117052]

It's the luckiest job in the game, although the set is niche, it's not bad at all. It also works combined with 2 luck items, I like it.

Just from level 150, because of variable luck on individual parts. Helen Gibson clothing gives 169% $ and luck - this one 80 + 6*0.1 which is greater than 169 exactly on level 150. However I´m not really sure if the sacrifice of money is worthed, because on lvl 170 I´m able to change into Gibson (on archaeologist), which would lead there to 13% gain of luck for 169% lose of money.

I like the purpose of the set, however I´m bit uncertain, if someone clicks with purely luck set (personally I do not, I prefer $ + luck combo).

 

[Uchiha Madara]

Just from level 150, because of variable luck on individual parts. Helen Gibson clothing gives 169% $ and luck - this one 80 + 6*0.1 which is greater than 169 exactly on level 150. However I´m not really sure if the sacrifice of money is worthed, because on lvl 170 I´m able to change into Gibson (on archaeologist), which would lead there to 13% gain of luck for 169% lose of money.

I like the purpose of the set, however I´m bit uncertain, if someone clicks with purely luck set (personally I do not, I prefer $ + luck combo).

You will have an overall better luck value with the Holiday set. For example if you don't quite like the idea of only farming with luck , you can wear the Holiday set queue jobs in Arch then equip Helen Gibson. You will have much much better luck value with Holiday set and you will be able to drop items worth more than what you would normally get with only using Helen Gibson. ( Just for Archeologist ) And you will of course get the money bonus too.

 

[Deleted User - 117052]

You will have an overall better luck value with the Holiday set. For example if you don't quite like the idea of only farming with luck , you can wear the Holiday set queue jobs in Arch then equip Helen Gibson. You will have much much better luck value with Holiday set and you will be able to drop items worth more than what you would normally get with only using Helen Gibson. ( Just for Archeologist ) And you will of course get the money bonus too.

Well I´m indeed starting jobs with ideal equipment for labour points and then I´m changing to the best equipment to amplify desired stat. What I´m saying the set is good for labour points on archaeologist, but meaningless for amplifying results of jobs.

 

[Uchiha Madara]

Well I´m indeed starting jobs with ideal equipment for labour points and then I´m changing to the best equipment to amplify desired stat. What I´m saying the set is good for labour points on archaeologist, but meaningless for amplifying results of jobs.

It does amplify the luck value of Archeologist significantly.