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Oktoberfest Event 2021 Discussion

Miss Florida

Lance Corporal
Not all weapons are released with the purpose of being the same or better than the ones already available.

Maybe not but how do you explain that basically all the sets released this year are worse than sets from the previous years? And what is the initiative for players to complete the events just to get the gear which they don´t have any use of (except for the new worlds)? We are not asking for a new Union OP set but there should be at least slight improvement in stats compared to sets from 2-3 years ago. Otherwise, what´s the point to spend nuggets? I don´t even have anything to spend my ingame money on since all the new sets are worse than what I already got.

2021 sets shouldn´t be worse than 2018 gear!
 
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Al35ul CM

Shadow City Guardian
Former Team Member
Maybe not but how do you explain that basically all the sets released this year are worse than sets from the previous years? And what is the initiative for players to complete the events just to get the gear which they don´t have any use of (except for the new worlds)? We are not asking for a new Union OP set but there should be at least slight improvement in stats compared to sets from 2-3 years ago. Otherwise, what´s the point to spend nuggets? I don´t even have anything to spend my ingame money on since all the new sets are worse than what I already got.

2021 sets shouldn´t be worse than 2018 gear!
Thank you for your feedback! With DOTD coming up, I dare say we may see some better sets, but that is just a speculation based on past years. Many of our newer sets are also aimed at new players and new player account. I have already made a request for better sets to be released in my weekly report and will do so again in my next one :).
 

Miss Florida

Lance Corporal
Thank you for your feedback! With DOTD coming up, I dare say we may see some better sets, but that is just a speculation based on past years. Many of our newer sets are also aimed at new players and new player account. I have already made a request for better sets to be released in my weekly report and will do so again in my next one :).
My point is that you should have better sets distributed more equally in the events during the year, not jam them all to a single event Dotd. Otherwise, it becomes pointless to complete the events for veteran players who are a large majority of your player base.

Also, thank you for being honest that the main purpose of these new sets is to sell them to accounts on new worlds.
 
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Sajko

Reservist
I have waited for 2 years for any new set since Pensylwania started on The-West.pl and guess what even after those 2 years I do not have any good weapon for shooter to upgrade from events because weapons from 2018 are stronger than Thomas upgraded :njub:. Getting bored of this game while sets like Benjamin Rush are coming out which have absolutely no use for anything.
 

RaiderTr

Master Sergeant
What's the point of making underpowered sets for newbies? (Assuming there is any)

Is that supposed to be a good thing?
 
@RaiderTr it seems they never had a consistent plan with sets. They destroyed the balance by having 3-4 op sets that make all other useless.

I suggest let the players design the sets that would free some time for the devs as well and make everything better.
 

RaiderTr

Master Sergeant
Everyone is a newbie when they open a new world.
Until xmas and that's quite near the new server opening so I don't see the point..

Been there done that.
@RaiderTr it seems they never had a consistent plan with sets. They destroyed the balance by having 3-4 op sets that make all other useless.
Yea now "they" act like those OP sets don't exist..
Like I said before.
 

Deleted User - 115745

Guest
I noticed that Alfred's belt has a bonus +0.71 Reflex and no Horseback riding bonus. In the beggining it was a little confusing, but now i see there is no any other item from this set, which has Reflex bonus, so I guess it is a mistake and this belt should have a Horseback riding instead of Reflex.
we still dont have an answer at this question....can you clear our thougs AL35?
 

Al35ul CM

Shadow City Guardian
Former Team Member
we still dont have an answer at this question....can you clear our thougs AL35?
I can't say with certainty why Reflex is on the belt. I will of course submit a request for this to be changed but I do believe (unfortunately) that it might be too late.
 

DeletedUser500

Guest
I can't say with certainty why Reflex is on the belt. I will of course submit a request for this to be changed but I do believe (unfortunately) that it might be too late.
It's only too late to fix existing items if someone arbitrarily decided so.
Are we not in a period of unprecedented rebalancing anyway? Should extend that to problematic sets and try to fix the game, and clothes with the wrong skills because everyone makes mistakes - what's important is how you overcome them. Ignoring it is but one possible resolution to a problem.
 

Deleted User - 117528

Guest
I can't say with certainty why Reflex is on the belt. I will of course submit a request for this to be changed but I do believe (unfortunately) that it might be too late.
Devs should make things right to not be put in position to change something :))
 

DeletedUser500

Guest
Devs should make things right to not be put in position to change something :))
Like I said above, everyone is allowed to make mistakes. In game development there's meant to be layers of protection against mistakes making it to the product, starting with QA (but we have no QA engineer), then internal testing (but we seem to let every quest through with issues), and ending with an open Beta (but we use the Beta world as a regular world with cheap nuggets, not for testing and feedback is disregarded anyway). There are institutional inadequacies which lead to mistakes reaching production servers.

InnoGames have already admitted to making mistakes with the sets in the past, now we see them making weak sets that no one wants to buy while leaving the ones that ruin the game as they are.
Mistakes are fine, they're important because they are learning moments. Addressing your mistakes is the important thing.
 

RaiderTr

Master Sergeant
Well, LCM picks the Stats for items/Sets.. Not the part-time exterior Devs..
It's in the Job description of LCM even (CM Specialist)

Believe the same goes for Quests and stuff.


Devs are most likely just fixing the mess that obsolete code of this game causes.
And since there is no QA whatsoever.. Takes a while to find the issues to begin with..
 
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Al35ul CM

Shadow City Guardian
Former Team Member
It's only too late to fix existing items if someone arbitrarily decided so.
Not necessarily :). It is quite possible to (and we are happy to) change item bonuses at the start of an event. It is always the case where a player (or in most cases, a group of players) have already spent premium/bonds/ event currency etc. to collect and/or upgraded the item and changing it this late into the event isn't very practical. This not only applies to the item in question here but to most (if not all) items.

I have nonetheless asked and I will, of course, let everyone know of the answer :).
 
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