Oktoberfest 2025 Sets - Feedback

[Emma Swan]

I honestly couldnt care less who earns what,all I wanna see is somebody who actually gives a f..k about this game.... So far she is not doing good job at all. But i think everybody knows that. I recommed for these people deciding what is good and not, to actually play this game.

Its like me giving advices for surgeons. Cementary full lol

 

[Tanzstafe]

I honestly couldnt care less who earns what,all I wanna see is somebody who actually gives a f..k about this game.... So far she is not doing good job at all. But i think everybody knows that. I recommed for these people deciding what is good and not, to actually play this game.

Its like me giving advices for surgeons. Cementary full lol

the remains player left are not the ones that dont even know it has this forum and accept anything, (most players dont know it is here in beta forum that we can argue to new sets changes or even older), the players are tired with that discommunication and disregard with them, It's not for nothing that worlds die, it's not for nothing that players stop playing, it's not for nothing that players prefer a single active world to several mediocre ones (which is why they open migration XD)...

 

[BaggyBlue]

There are a total of 19 The-West! + 1 Beta! A total of 100 tickets from The-West arrive every day. Plus the Beta ones where feedback, complaints, suggestions, etc. are received. But the working hours are 8 to 9 hours. Then there are meetings with the management and the team! And the Community Manager meeting. So how much time does a Senior Community Manager have left? Believe me, the job of a Senior Community Manager is not as easy as you always think! Stop claiming that a Senior Community Manager does nothing!!!

 

[sniperjohn2]

@Loki Why did you put a gift bond instead of a pretzel in the battle of the fortress on 7/09/2025?

 

[BaggyBlue]

@Loki Why did you put a gift bond instead of a pretzel in the battle of the fortress on 7/09/2025?

Why not? I can really use it! It's still available until October 7th (11:59). 30 days to get your pretzel!

 

[Tanzstafe]

@the legit you gave me an idea in your post about that:

Suggestions for improvement and various discussions

I've been thinking about just the idea of negative stats that could provide a benefit, in exchange for some risk. Item examples (can be integrated in some item as oposed to a standalone item ofc) 1) Icon Name Bonus per level Fancy Maya's hair feather +0.080 Charisma +0.90...

forum.beta.the-west.net

what if sundance kids set give negative health points? (like that item:

Spoiler: bandage

MEDIUM FORT ON DT IN BOTH SCREENSHOTS



as you can see in both screenshots because i have -5 health points i earned +0.03 md and +8 resistance
(of course i needed to compare against no product equiped)

what if instead of having damage sector, sundance has like -0.1 health points level (would be -25 at level 250, would need to be by level cuz in lower level would be possible reach negative hp)

this is a complete unique feature, because: (it is the oposite to add hp in skill)

level interfere hit, dodge, and hp...
( Beginner bonus: 15 x {1 - (Level ÷ 250)} )

aim, lead and traps/hiding interfere in attack chance
{Leadership0.5 +Aiming0.5 + (Hiding OR Setting Traps)0.6 + Multiplayer Attack + Sector Attack + Beginner bonus + 10} x 1.15 x (Terrain attack + Tower Class bonus) ÷ Distance penalty

dodge, lead and traps/hiding interfere in defend chance
{Leadership0.5 +Dodging0.5 + (Hiding OR Setting Traps)0.6 + Multiplayer Defense + Sector Defense + Beginner bonus + 10 } x (Terrain Defense + Tower Class Bonus)

traps/hiding and hp interfere in resistance
300 × (Hiding OR Setting Traps) ÷ Max HP + Resistance Bonus

lead and hp interfere in damage
Weapon Damage + Sector Damage + [(Weapon Damage + Sector Damage) × Leadership ÷ Max HP]

+hp MAX interfere in have less damage and resistance
-hp MAX interfere in have more damage and resistance

Conclusion: So that negative hp only affect damage and resistance, is not the same as getting level, because as you could see, hit chance and dodge chance depends on level, however damage and resistance is only hp dependant... So one way to penalize less the loss of leadership effectiveness would be for the new sets, both damage like Sundance, and super resistance like Davis Tutts, to also come with negative HP.

 

[Uchiha Madara]

There are a total of 19 The-West! + 1 Beta! A total of 100 tickets from The-West arrive every day. Plus the Beta ones where feedback, complaints, suggestions, etc. are received. But the working hours are 8 to 9 hours. Then there are meetings with the management and the team! And the Community Manager meeting. So how much time does a Senior Community Manager have left? Believe me, the job of a Senior Community Manager is not as easy as you always think! Stop claiming that a Senior Community Manager does nothing!!!

I'm sorry Baggy but I could only laugh at this comment.

 

[asdf124]

you can check salary for CM on InnoGames games site, its not a new thing , but from Oktobefest feedback to how much a CM or LCM earn... like wtf ))) , we know this game is just a cash cow same as tribal wars, in tribals wars they add some new things, like new victory requirements and some non premium world who are really populated, but here, don t waste your times, this game is on a really bad state, the thing they will do to improve is merging servers, like they merge already some servers with net.

this is false, only way for the game to change is if we players stop talking with our mouths, and start talking with our wallet.

Edit: the reason why I say this is, tribal wars was on its way to be way worse than the-west. They tried to revamp it with tribal wars 2.
I was in tribal wars 1, left it and didn't follow its stages or comeback.

 

[BaggyBlue]

I'm sorry Baggy but I could only laugh at this comment.

Well, it's your business. Are you volunteering to do Lenka's job? I tell you, have fun! You're all world champions at insulting people! Just like in the Beta Forum, just like in the German Forum! But when it gets too close, everyone runs away! Contact Lenka, it's so easy to answer a ticket! I tell you, have fun!

 

[asdf124]

There are a total of 19 The-West! + 1 Beta! A total of 100 tickets from The-West arrive every day. Plus the Beta ones where feedback, complaints, suggestions, etc. are received. But the working hours are 8 to 9 hours. Then there are meetings with the management and the team! And the Community Manager meeting. So how much time does a Senior Community Manager have left? Believe me, the job of a Senior Community Manager is not as easy as you always think! Stop claiming that a Senior Community Manager does nothing!!!

I don't think this is the case. She doesn't answer any of the tickets, its the job for the mod team, she only works with the community managers, and see the reports they make. IF she even fully read them.
I think the-west senior LCM isn't 8-9 hours, its probably less since you can't pay minimum wage for a full time job. Only a half time job you can do that.

As a side job, do you actually think she/he would fully focus on it? I think most people hardly focus on their own jobs, since most people are underpaid, except maybe Poland if they have full time jobs set up, and if they only do their own job.(since a lot of people usually have to do things that aren't even in their own job description).
But nah, lets give this lady the benefit of the doubt, since she fully read everything. We will take your word for it.
Sincerely asdf, aka tug.

 

[the legit]

They also use external software developer(s) for the-west so yeah I wonder how many allocated in-house developers they have, if any.

 

[BigNoob]

This is a thread about the Oktoberfest sets and as always it ends up in a wrong place. The future of The-West isn't decided by the LCM/Lenka. The resources/means allocated to The-West and the goals/way of running The-West are decided at the head of InnoGames. The LCM, the dev, Loki and everyone else here can only do within what is possible from the guide lines in place. As a player witnessing the development/progress over the last 10 years generally and over the last 3 years with more attention I can only feel like what Darkuletzz said is right.

we know this game is just a cash cow

For as long as InnoGames' view on The-West doesn't change there is no amount of crying here that will change anything.

But none of that explains the terrible set designing that has been going on. Fort Battles and Duels are unbalanced due to the sets being unbalanced. It's really frustrating.

 

[asdf124]

This is a thread about the Oktoberfest sets and as always it ends up in a wrong place. The future of The-West isn't decided by the LCM/Lenka. The resources/means allocated to The-West and the goals/way of running The-West are decided at the head of InnoGames. The LCM, the dev, Loki and everyone else here can only do within what is possible from the guide lines in place. As a player witnessing the development/progress over the last 10 years generally and over the last 3 years with more attention I can only feel like what Darkuletzz said is right.

For as long as InnoGames' view on The-West doesn't change there is no amount of crying here that will change anything.

But none of that explains the terrible set designing that has been going on. Fort Battles and Duels are unbalanced due to the sets being unbalanced. It's really frustrating.

if it works as a cash crop,"(sets) they'll keep unbalancing the game unless we players stop buying them.
edit: personal note: ~good luck convincing the high paying players to not buy nuggets for the next year including the end of year.

 

[darkuletzz]

This is a thread about the Oktoberfest sets and as always it ends up in a wrong place. The future of The-West isn't decided by the LCM/Lenka. The resources/means allocated to The-West and the goals/way of running The-West are decided at the head of InnoGames. The LCM, the dev, Loki and everyone else here can only do within what is possible from the guide lines in place. As a player witnessing the development/progress over the last 10 years generally and over the last 3 years with more attention I can only feel like what Darkuletzz said is right.

For as long as InnoGames' view on The-West doesn't change there is no amount of crying here that will change anything.

But none of that explains the terrible set designing that has been going on. Fort Battles and Duels are unbalanced due to the sets being unbalanced. It's really frustrating.

Like I said, this game is a cash cow, just see how many non premium worlds they released(anyway now the skills and attributes doesnt matter that much, just when your account is 10 years old)
They didnt do anything on this game, saw a post that they didnt do anything with tribals wars, yeah they did not do anything , thats for sure, but they added some new worlds on DE server, they do one with premium and one with limited premium , and both of them are really populated, same on RO servers, they somehow put one clasic world every now and then , like 1 time a year, some special world with no premium advantage, like ok, that game is same thing, cash cow like here, but they at least give their community 1 time/year a clasical world with limited premium like how was in 2007-2008. Here, just events and cash grabs, I don remember when I saw last time a new face that was saying "It's the first time I play this game".

 

[Artem124]

https://prnt.sc/xlqkrFLlWrL0

is it worth retiring my union set for sundance ?

 

[Tanzstafe]

https://prnt.sc/xlqkrFLlWrL0

is it worth retiring my union set for sundance ?

of course

 

[darkuletzz]

https://prnt.sc/xlqkrFLlWrL0

is it worth retiring my union set for sundance ?

The only thing you can still use from Union are the guns but you need to have upgraded them at level 3, if not, they already already start to lose the battles with new nuggets gun, because the new guns , like sousa and lagdon have XP, the stats , and now you can use DG and gringo in a sector and hit better than union at level 2 or 1.

 

[Artem124]

The only thing you can still use from Union are the guns but you need to have upgraded them at level 3, if not, they already already start to lose the battles with new nuggets gun, because the new guns , like sousa and lagdon have XP, the stats , and now you can use DG and gringo in a sector and hit better than union at level 2 or 1.

i broke 100k with my union kit..

people with lvl 3-5 rifles struggle still..
thats the crazy part

 

[Uchiha Madara]

you really as people on discord said @dynar real?

Nothing wrong with adding XP on Gringo.

Do you feel good calling people names?

 

[Emma Swan]

@Loki
SInce oktoberfest feedbakc has been totally ignored, lets start to talk about next event. These buffs in free round (in all events) should get buff. All these buffs are created for 10 years ago players. Now when you release free sets that gives 150% xp for example, its ridiculous to get buff 10% energy 10% HP. Also I have seen a lot discussion on new servers if there is a possibility to add 1-3 vip premium in events as well, instead of old chests for example?

And since Easter event get egg that contains 650 and 1500 eggs, independence and oktoberfest should get the same ( and with different design to spot that difference, easter egg that contains eggs is the same as these with buff).

Is it also possible to remove old buffed and items like chests and replace them by new 1000% buff and buffes that are in union shop instead of these 10-25% energy, hp and 50% luck buff? Those would actually players use in the game.

Could these mentioned above, be part of DOTD event as well? That event is lucking of good buffes and special items as well. Especially if most of th enew servers are opening in october, so DOTD should get good buffes to help players to start? I would also add in first rounds maybe special chest that will contain one of the christmas set? Even Santa would help to new servers.

And rewards for flowers DOTD should be better as well, for player and for community as well. There is still time to be creative.

I would also add 3rd set for DOTD. That would solve big problem, that way there would be a way to make good 4 sets for players to start with. 1 duel, 1 ff, 2 pve?