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Just replace Waupee to Artem in the mentioned items
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WhyN0t
Master Sergeant
Without realising that anyone can wear that OP set and use it against him. So many people make this mistake smh
FreeHugs
Lance Corporal
discovering a broken gear combination only for others to copy you and use it betterWithout realising that anyone can wear that OP set and use it against him. So many people make this mistake smh
WhyN0t
Master Sergeant
It happens everytime 
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But now items are relatively balanced, t/r build are a bit too strong in my opinion, but I don't complain about this, because if toughness/reflex would be nerfed, it would be almost impossible for a non-soldier to win on defense if he doesn't have a specific defensive build. And who wants that? Soldiers get 600+ tactics for free and I have to spend all my skills in tactics to do the same? No thanks, i rather play with t/r. Of course, range weapons needs a better clothing set, but this new one will do the job. I just hope it gets nerfed a little bit, because it's too strong, and nobody want a single set to be meta. It would suck.
)But now items are relatively balanced, t/r build are a bit too strong in my opinion, but I don't complain about this, because if toughness/reflex would be nerfed, it would be almost impossible for a non-soldier to win on defense if he doesn't have a specific defensive build. And who wants that? Soldiers get 600+ tactics for free and I have to spend all my skills in tactics to do the same? No thanks, i rather play with t/r. Of course, range weapons needs a better clothing set, but this new one will do the job. I just hope it gets nerfed a little bit, because it's too strong, and nobody want a single set to be meta. It would suck.
Update:
Better? Still OP?
Gunsmith items
| Name | Bonus | Price | Level required |
|---|---|---|---|
| Rusty Waupee's sabre | Damage +1 +0.032 Strength (per level) +0.032 Charisma (per level) +0.55 Vigor (per level) +0.4 Toughness (per level) +0.45 Tactics (per level) +0.45 Appearance (per level) | $25000 | 150 |
| Waupee's sabre | Damage +1.02 +0.033 Strength (per level) +0.033 Charisma (per level) +0.56 Vigor (per level) +0.42 Toughness (per level) +0.42 Reflex (per level) +0.47 Appearance (per level) | $30000 | 155 |
| Sharp Waupee's sabre | Damage +1.04 +0.034 Strength (per level) +0.034 Charisma (per level) +0.57 Vigor (per level) +0.44 Toughness (per level) +0.44 Reflex (per level) +0.49 Tactics (per level) | $50000 | 160 |
| Fancy Waupee's sabre | Damage +1.06 +0.035 Strength (per level) +0.03 Mobility (per level) +0.035 Charisma (per level) +0.58 Vigor (per level) +0.47 Toughness (per level) +0.47 Reflex (per level) +0.5 Tactics (per level) +0.5 Appearance (per level) | $45000 | 165 |
| Name | Bonus | Level required | |
|---|---|---|---|
| Rusty Waupee's revolves | Damage +1 +0.032 Dexterity (per level) +0.032 Charisma (per level) +0.55 Shooting (per level) +0.4 Toughness (per level) +0.45 Tactics (per level) +0.45 Appearance (per level) | $25000 | 150 |
| Waupee's revolves | Damage +1.02 +0.033 Strength (per level) +0.033 Dexterity (per level) +0.033 Charisma (per level) +0.56 Shooting (per level) +0.42 Toughness (per level) +0.42 Reflex (per level) +0.47 Appearance (per level) | $30000 | 155 |
| Precise Waupee's revolves | Damage +1.04 +0.034 Dexterity (per level) +0.034 Charisma (per level) +0.57 Shooting (per level) +0.44 Toughness (per level) +0.44 Reflex (per level) +0.49 Tactics (per level) | $50000 | 160 |
| Fancy Waupee's revolves | Damage +1.06 +0.035 Dexterity (per level) +0.03 Mobility (per level) +0.035 Charisma (per level) +0.58 Shooting (per level) +0.47 Toughness (per level) +0.47 Reflex (per level) +0.5 Tactics (per level) +0.5 Appearance (per level) | $45000 | 165 |
| Name | Bonus | Level required | |
|---|---|---|---|
| Rusty Waupee's rifles | Damage 16-36 +0.03 Strength (per level) +0.03 Mobility (per level) +0.03 Dexterity (per level) +0.34 +0.5 Hiding (per level) +0.5 Aiming (per level) +0.5 Leadership (per level) | $35000 | 150 |
| Waupee's rifles | Damage 18-38 +0.03 Strength (per level) +0.03 Mobility (per level) +0.03 Charisma (per level) +0.36 +0.5 Aiming (per level) +0.5 Setting traps (per level) +0.5 Leadership (per level) | $45000 | 155 |
| Precise Waupee's rifles | Damage 20-40 +0.032 Strength (per level) +0.032 Mobility (per level) +0.032 Dexterity (per level) +0.38 +0.57 Dodging (per level) +0.57 Setting traps (per level) +0.57 Leadership (per level) | $50000 | 160 |
| Fancy Waupee's rifles | Damage 22-42 +0.035 Strength (per level) +0.035 Mobility (per level) +0.035 Charisma (per level) +0.4 +0.6 Dodging (per level) +0.6 Hiding (per level) +0.6 Leadership (per level) | $60000 | 165 |
Better? Still OP?
FreeHugs
Lance Corporal
Update:
Gunsmith items
Better? Still OP?
I don't know, I don't really like get a good feel of the stats till I see what it would give at 150+
WhyN0t
Master Sergeant
They suck nowUpdate:
Gunsmith items
Name Bonus Price Level required Rusty Waupee's sabre Damage 1713-23
+1.14Damage (per level)
+0.032 Strength (per level)
+0.032 Charisma (per level)
+0.55 Vigor (per level)
+0.4 Toughness (per level)
+0.45 Tactics (per level)
+0.45 Appearance (per level)$25000 150 Waupee's sabre Damage 19-2514-24
+1.02.15Damage (per level)
+0.033 Strength (per level)
+0.033 Charisma (per level)
+0.56 Vigor (per level)
+0.42 Toughness (per level)
+0.42 Reflex (per level)
+0.47 Appearance (per level)$30000 155 Sharp Waupee's sabre Damage 21-2715-25
+1.04.16Damage (per level)
+0.034 Strength (per level)
+0.034 Charisma (per level)
+0.57 Vigor (per level)
+0.44 Toughness (per level)
+0.44 Reflex (per level)
+0.49 Tactics (per level)$50000 160 Fancy Waupee's sabre Damage 23-2916-26
+1.06.17Damage (per level)
+0.035 Strength (per level)
+0.03 Mobility (per level)
+0.035 Charisma (per level)
+0.58 Vigor (per level)
+0.47 Toughness (per level)
+0.47 Reflex (per level)
+0.5 Tactics (per level)
+0.5 Appearance (per level)$45000 165
Name Bonus Level required Rusty Waupee's revolves Damage 1713-23
+1.14Damage (per level)
+0.032 Dexterity (per level)
+0.032 Charisma (per level)
+0.55 Shooting (per level)
+0.4 Toughness (per level)
+0.45 Tactics (per level)
+0.45 Appearance (per level)$25000 150 Waupee's revolves Damage 19-2514-24
+1.02.15Damage (per level)
+0.033 Strength (per level)
+0.033 Dexterity (per level)
+0.033 Charisma (per level)
+0.56 Shooting (per level)
+0.42 Toughness (per level)
+0.42 Reflex (per level)
+0.47 Appearance (per level)$30000 155 Precise Waupee's revolves Damage 21-2715-25
+1.04.16Damage (per level)
+0.034 Dexterity (per level)
+0.034 Charisma (per level)
+0.57 Shooting (per level)
+0.44 Toughness (per level)
+0.44 Reflex (per level)
+0.49 Tactics (per level)$50000 160 Fancy Waupee's revolves Damage 23-2916-26
+1.06.17Damage (per level)
+0.035 Dexterity (per level)
+0.03 Mobility (per level)
+0.035 Charisma (per level)
+0.58 Shooting (per level)
+0.47 Toughness (per level)
+0.47 Reflex (per level)
+0.5 Tactics (per level)
+0.5 Appearance (per level)$45000 165
Name Bonus Level required Rusty Waupee's rifles Damage 16-36
+2+1.8 Damage (per Level)
+0.03 Strength (per level)
+0.03 Mobility (per level)
+0.03 Dexterity (per level)
+0.34.55Heath points (per level)
+0.5 Hiding (per level)
+0.5 Aiming (per level)
+0.5 Leadership (per level)$35000 150 Waupee's rifles Damage 18-38
+2.02+1.82 Damage (per Level)
+0.03 Strength (per level)
+0.03 Mobility (per level)
+0.03 Charisma (per level)
+0.36.55Heath points (per level)
+0.5 Aiming (per level)
+0.5 Setting traps (per level)
+0.5 Leadership (per level)$45000 155 Precise Waupee's rifles Damage 20-40
+2.04+1.84 Damage (per Level)
+0.032 Strength (per level)
+0.032 Mobility (per level)
+0.032 Dexterity (per level)
+0.38.57Heath points (per level)
+0.57 Dodging (per level)
+0.57 Setting traps (per level)
+0.57 Leadership (per level)$50000 160 Fancy Waupee's rifles Damage 22-42
+2.06+1.86 Damage (per Level)
+0.035 Strength (per level)
+0.035 Mobility (per level)
+0.035 Charisma (per level)
+0.4.6Health points (per level)
+0.6 Dodging (per level)
+0.6 Hiding (per level)
+0.6 Leadership (per level)$60000 165
Better? Still OP?
Reverse the nerf.
Strictly related to dueling weapons. You have more t/r with bounty hunter or harverster. The only reason you would have bought (and upgrade) these weapons was for damage, as you would have lost the set bonus. Now it's not worth it. Not to mention that 99% of duellers already have harvester's and bounty hunter's weapons. My fear was that the following items would become too good, but making these unnecessary weak does not solve anything.
Edit: If we had a road map it would be easier to give feedback. I have no way of knowing if you will add items like this for lvl 180 200 220 etc. If you increase the bonus directly proportionally, those might be OP, but these presented by you are not that strong at the moment. If they had aiming instead of tactics or vigor, yes, they could be OP, but they are not.
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DeletedUser500
Guest
not until there's diminishing returns for excessive leadership values
aimgei
Lance Corporal
They were fine, as long as we don't get any more weapons added in the shops (lvl 170+), since those would need to be stronger than the 150-165 ones. If no more weapons will be added then the nerf is not needed.Update:
Gunsmith items
Name Bonus Price Level required Rusty Waupee's sabre Damage 1713-23
+1.14Damage (per level)
+0.032 Strength (per level)
+0.032 Charisma (per level)
+0.55 Vigor (per level)
+0.4 Toughness (per level)
+0.45 Tactics (per level)
+0.45 Appearance (per level)$25000 150 Waupee's sabre Damage 19-2514-24
+1.02.15Damage (per level)
+0.033 Strength (per level)
+0.033 Charisma (per level)
+0.56 Vigor (per level)
+0.42 Toughness (per level)
+0.42 Reflex (per level)
+0.47 Appearance (per level)$30000 155 Sharp Waupee's sabre Damage 21-2715-25
+1.04.16Damage (per level)
+0.034 Strength (per level)
+0.034 Charisma (per level)
+0.57 Vigor (per level)
+0.44 Toughness (per level)
+0.44 Reflex (per level)
+0.49 Tactics (per level)$50000 160 Fancy Waupee's sabre Damage 23-2916-26
+1.06.17Damage (per level)
+0.035 Strength (per level)
+0.03 Mobility (per level)
+0.035 Charisma (per level)
+0.58 Vigor (per level)
+0.47 Toughness (per level)
+0.47 Reflex (per level)
+0.5 Tactics (per level)
+0.5 Appearance (per level)$45000 165
Name Bonus Level required Rusty Waupee's revolves Damage 1713-23
+1.14Damage (per level)
+0.032 Dexterity (per level)
+0.032 Charisma (per level)
+0.55 Shooting (per level)
+0.4 Toughness (per level)
+0.45 Tactics (per level)
+0.45 Appearance (per level)$25000 150 Waupee's revolves Damage 19-2514-24
+1.02.15Damage (per level)
+0.033 Strength (per level)
+0.033 Dexterity (per level)
+0.033 Charisma (per level)
+0.56 Shooting (per level)
+0.42 Toughness (per level)
+0.42 Reflex (per level)
+0.47 Appearance (per level)$30000 155 Precise Waupee's revolves Damage 21-2715-25
+1.04.16Damage (per level)
+0.034 Dexterity (per level)
+0.034 Charisma (per level)
+0.57 Shooting (per level)
+0.44 Toughness (per level)
+0.44 Reflex (per level)
+0.49 Tactics (per level)$50000 160 Fancy Waupee's revolves Damage 23-2916-26
+1.06.17Damage (per level)
+0.035 Dexterity (per level)
+0.03 Mobility (per level)
+0.035 Charisma (per level)
+0.58 Shooting (per level)
+0.47 Toughness (per level)
+0.47 Reflex (per level)
+0.5 Tactics (per level)
+0.5 Appearance (per level)$45000 165
Name Bonus Level required Rusty Waupee's rifles Damage 16-36
+2+1.8 Damage (per Level)
+0.03 Strength (per level)
+0.03 Mobility (per level)
+0.03 Dexterity (per level)
+0.34.55Heath points (per level)
+0.5 Hiding (per level)
+0.5 Aiming (per level)
+0.5 Leadership (per level)$35000 150 Waupee's rifles Damage 18-38
+2.02+1.82 Damage (per Level)
+0.03 Strength (per level)
+0.03 Mobility (per level)
+0.03 Charisma (per level)
+0.36.55Heath points (per level)
+0.5 Aiming (per level)
+0.5 Setting traps (per level)
+0.5 Leadership (per level)$45000 155 Precise Waupee's rifles Damage 20-40
+2.04+1.84 Damage (per Level)
+0.032 Strength (per level)
+0.032 Mobility (per level)
+0.032 Dexterity (per level)
+0.38.57Heath points (per level)
+0.57 Dodging (per level)
+0.57 Setting traps (per level)
+0.57 Leadership (per level)$50000 160 Fancy Waupee's rifles Damage 22-42
+2.06+1.86 Damage (per Level)
+0.035 Strength (per level)
+0.035 Mobility (per level)
+0.035 Charisma (per level)
+0.4.6Health points (per level)
+0.6 Dodging (per level)
+0.6 Hiding (per level)
+0.6 Leadership (per level)$60000 165
Better? Still OP?
Uchiha Madara
Master Sergeant
Maybe next time we should complain about stuff being OP ( when they are not ) so they can nerf stuff that are not OP
WhyN0t
Master Sergeant
Without aiming and a set bonus, they were ok. Strong, but not OP. Without high damage, there is no point in upgrading these weapons. I think you should reverse the nerf and if they feel too strong (and I doubt they will), next time when you release new weapons make them weaker. A different bonus would be enough for people to buy them.
Edit: typo
Edit: typo
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Melonak007
Reservist
gg loki, If the dmg will be like on your post...congrats, nobody will even notice this update cuz nobody will care about this uselless weapons
about this uselless weapons
JustAMoment
Lance Corporal
Yeah the town weapons needs atleast decent damage to be useable in that case. Same goes for outfits ofc, we are not gonna wear them for set bonuses but to min-max something. In this case it would be damage in future upgrades. If you lower it that much there wont be nearly point to spend moneys on them to upgrade them. I don't think they need nerf.
If these are all we get for a while let them be strong since they are "higher lvl weapons" and should be real upgrades.
If these are all we get for a while let them be strong since they are "higher lvl weapons" and should be real upgrades.