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Independence Day 2020 discussion

Zulus

Private
Hmm, the reward pool, as you say, has been changed slightly. In very rare category we AGAIN have the forever unwated glossy premium chest as well as potion of new beginning. As for the other 3 categories, you have managed to squeeze so much crap into them that all the items in there are probably vacuum packed in order to save space.
 

RaiderTr

Master Sergeant
Inn-o mocking Tanks once again by giving (lots of) Hp + Defense + Resist weapon set with decent stats as a Winner set.. instead of Tombola..
 
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rel2

Lance Corporal
again crap chest and potion in last category, 8 useless things in third category, well lets just all win the weapons :)
 

DeletedUser500

Guest
There's still too many junk chests for my liking to spend any money on gambling. Probably best if the fort sets are not included or are fairly weak for now and we can re-assess that situation in the near future with the fort changes, but those bonuses are so nonsensical that it's fine.
 
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DeletedUser500

Guest
Winners weapons are bloody good, but you'll end up with hundreds of sub-par clothing for the trouble.
 

Harsha.1

Private First Class
The sets aren't so bad....one outstanding trading set with piece-wise luck and cash bonuses, a construction set that rather than just being better than the previous one, moves in a new, "specialized" direction by including duel skills on the pieces. We all know the notoriety duelers achieve by hitting builders wearing parade/preacher clothes and massacring them. Now, that's not going to be so easy. The free set is a good regeneration set for those without bel's along with a decent product drop rate.

If we go and demand that every single tombola should have better and better sets, then we're just encouraging power creep, which by no means is a wise thing to ask for. Better to develop sets that go in new directions and cover niche roles. But, one exception that needs to be made is a better FF weapon set for tanks. We have seen many OP weapon sets for damagers, but never a good tank weapon set to balance those (since zapata's set), and the only ones, Gringo, Independence hero, and Blue and Red set are incredibly tough to get. It would be good to include one such set in the near future to strengthen tanks in battles.

As pointed out by others, the reward pool needs changes - probably remove the Premium Vintage chest, Unique chest, the two potions and move glossy premium chest + potion of new beginning down to "rare", replace the first aid kit and energy chest with a single incredible chest. On top of that, some tinkering with the rewards from the very rare independence day chest is needed. Remove the ancient and obsolete sets from those and ensure only the 2018 and 2019 sets drop from that chest. Keeping in better rewards will pay off more for the company in the long run, as people will be more willing to spend money if good rewards are more likely to drop.
 
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RaiderTr

Master Sergeant
better FF weapon set for tanks. We have seen many OP weapon sets for damagers, but never a good tank weapon set to balance those
I've been advocating for a new up-to-date Hombre-like Weapon set for months and they do it as a Winner weapon ffs. (If we ignore the Atk-Dmg bonuses that is)

Or... could just throw in some Resistance to Shiny Golden Set.. It has become obsolete enough..
 

mxj1

Private First Class
Sets aren't that bad tbh, apart from that one for adventures, but I like that you moved chests with old items one category down (like it's every octoberfest event for example) so hats/necklaces are in free category instead of 1500 one. 9000 fireworks category also upgraded from being 50% trash to 33% trash, not that bad event
 

RaiderTr

Master Sergeant
Are there really any changes to Reward categories tho? Feels like a cliche copy-paste info (that we changed bla bla) every year to me..

And ppl often confuses events.. Do you have any image from last years' Indy event reward pool?
 

DeletedUser500

Guest
Are there really any changes to Reward categories tho? Feels like a cliche copy-paste info (that we changed bla bla) every year to me..

And ppl often confuses events.. Do you have any image from last years' Indy event reward pool?
Spot the difference. Happy Birthday Livingston set.
rewardpool_2019-indep.png

rewardpool%20wof2020.png
 
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RaiderTr

Master Sergeant
Mkay, you convinced me that 9-48k category finally makes slightly more sense and others slightly less so.

But still waaay too many chests that don't worth anything at all.
 

Deleted User - 114704

Guest
Get rid of the iron clad chest, lucky chest and lucky box.
If InnoGames really wants lucky chest and lucky box please put them in the free section because they are really poop.
Maybe consider making the first aid kit tradable (energy box is tradable, kinda the same) so it's actually worth something if you get that on a world where you don't need it.

If you do this, imo it would be a million times better
 

DeletedUser4681

Guest
Feel free to discuss our latest event!

Please, could You make it more clear with Marshall's clothes set. Its set bonuses actually.
Forum announcement gives set bonuses, e.g. construction skill, MUCH weaker than at actual beta server or in TW-Calc Marshall's set description.

Which are more correct - skill bonuses in Your forum announcement or at beta+TW-Calc?
 
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Zulus

Private
With so many extra boxes, potions chests and buffs in every category of the tombola, are you offering a chance for people to get some new items / sets that came out with the latest event or are you trying to flog us useless stuff that is hardly used by anyone? Right now it feels like a mojo, crappy boxes (that can be bought daily from the shop), buffs tombola rather then indpendence event with new stuff on offer. If you insist on having all those extra items in tombolas, put them all in free category and let people have a chance of getting something new and useful.

We have been talking about all this and asking for removal or movement of certain items to lower categories for years now, at least 4-5 times per year with each tombola and yet you still ask what would be the ideal place for them.

Remove the mojos, remove the chests like iron clad, noble chest, fancy chest, unique chest, glossy premium chest. Nobody buys them from the shop, why would anyone want to win one in a tombola instead of a new item? That is what the vast majority have been saying for years on end.

If, on the other hand, InnoGames puts all this extra idiotic stuff into each category to decrease the chance of getting something new, to make everyone spin more to increase their chances by buying nuggets, then at least be honest about it and say - yes, thats the way it is and there is nothing we can do about it. But stop asking us to repeat the same thing 4-5 times a year, every year for the past 8 years, what and where would the players prefer to have all the items not associated with any given tombola.
 
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