I AM INEVITABLE
Master Sergeant
Give it 0.2 on clothes 0.2 on mount 0.2 on weapons
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Holiday Set 2025 - Feedback
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interpunk
Private
I am going to be cheeky here, as lot of us using the helen horse set for duelling as it the best toughness/vigor combo right now. Beside all the skill it is planned for money jobs I think it would be a nice touch to make more use for that horse set, and ad some skill points towards that too, maybe +0.45 aiming (per level) on the horse, and +0.55 aiming (per level) for a bonus set and that make truly valuable as a horse set should be.
Emma Swan
Master Sergeant
We have been asking whole year for better money/luck version than Helen, so, please, make it happen.
For each item make flat % bonus, not per level.
For clothes: Each item +30% Luck/Bonus
Then Clothes bonus set:
Mount: Animal and Yield +30% Luck/Money (remove per level)
Weapons: Also remove per level % bonus luck and money.
Stop wasting sets and make them usable also for low level players. I though you have leartn lessen with Lost Indian Set. Seems to me you havent.
Skills are noticably better than Helen there I see nothing wrong. But those bonuses are or low, missing or useless as per level.
For each item make flat % bonus, not per level.
For clothes: Each item +30% Luck/Bonus
Then Clothes bonus set:
| Clothes set bonus (for all items) | +0.1 Strength (per level) +0.1 Mobility (per level) +0.1 Dexterity (per level) +0.1 Charisma (per level) +1.1 Vigor (per level) +1.1 Toughness (per level) +1.1 Horseback Riding (per level) +1.1 Hiding (per level) +1.1 Shooting (per level) + + + + 120% Money from jobs and duels | +15 Strength +15 Mobility +15 Dexterity +15 Charisma +165 Vigor +165 Toughness +165 Horseback Riding +165 Hiding +165 Shooting +280 labor points +200 labor towards Robbing a Gun Salesman + + 120% Money from jobs and duels | +20 Strength +20 Mobility +20 Dexterity +20 Charisma +220 Vigor +220 Toughness +220 Horseback Riding +220 Hiding +220 Shooting +280 labor points +200 labor towards Robbing a Gun Salesman + + 120% Money from jobs and duels |
Mount: Animal and Yield +30% Luck/Money (remove per level)
| Animal + yield set bonus | +0.040 Strength (per level) +0.045 Mobility (per level) +0.040 Dexterity (per level) +0.045 Charisma (per level) +0.55 Vigor (per level) +0.55 Toughness (per level) +0.55 Horseback Riding (per level) +0.55 Hiding (per level) +0.55 Shooting (per level) +150 labor towards Robbing a Gun Salesman + + | +6 Strength +7 Mobility +6 Dexterity +7 Charisma +83 Vigor +83 Toughness +83 Horseback Riding +83 Hiding +83 Shooting +100 +150 labor points +150 labor towards Robbing a Gun Salesman + + | +8 Strength +9 Mobility +8 Dexterity +9 Charisma +110 Vigor +110 Toughness +110 Horseback Riding +110 Hiding +110 Shooting +100 +150 labor points +150 labor towards Robbing a Gun Salesman + + |
Weapons: Also remove per level % bonus luck and money.
| Item | Bonus per level | Bonus at level 150 | Bonus at level 200 |
|---|---|---|---|
| Melee | Damage: 15 - 25 +1.1 Damage (per Level) +0.045 Strength (per level) +0.045 Charisma (per level) +0.35 Vigor (per level) +0.35 Toughness (per level) +0.35 Horseback Riding (per level) + | Damage: 15 - 25 +165 Damage +7 Strength +7 Charisma +53 Vigor +53 Toughness +53 Horseback Riding + | Damage: 15 - 25 +220 Damage +9 Strength +9 Charisma +70 Vigor +70 Toughness +70 Horseback Riding + |
| Range | Damage: 15 - 25 +1.1 Damage (per Level) +0.045 Mobility (per level) +0.045 Dexterity (per level) +0.35 Horseback Riding (per level) +0.35 Hiding (per level) +0.35 Shooting (per level) | Damage: 15 - 25 +165 Damage +7 Mobility +7 Dexterity +53 Horseback Riding +53 Hiding +53 Shooting | Damage: 15 - 25 +220 Damage +9 Mobility +9 Dexterity +70 Horseback Riding +70 Hiding +70 Shooting + |
| Fort | Damage 20 - 40 +2.20 Damage (per Level) +0.045 Strength (per level) +0.045 Mobility (per level) +0.045 Dexterity (per level) +0.045 Charisma (per level) +0.45 Vigor (per level) +0.45 Toughness (per level) +0.45 Horseback Riding (per level) +0.45 Shooting (per level) + +0.05% +15% Money from jobs and duels | Damage: 20 - 40 +330 Damage +7 Strength +7 Mobility +7 Dexterity +7 Charisma +68 Vigor +68 Toughness +68 Horseback Riding +68 Shooting +8% +15% Money from jobs and duels | Damage: 20 - 40 +440 Damage +9 Strength +9 Mobility +9 Dexterity +9 Charisma +90 Vigor +90 Toughness +90 Horseback Riding +90 Shooting + |
| Weapon set bonus | +0.040 Strength (per level) +0.045 Mobility (per level) +0.045 Dexterity (per level) +0.040 Charisma (per level) +0.55 Vigor (per level) +0.55 Toughness (per level) +0.55 Horseback Riding (per level) +0.55 Hiding (per level) +0.55 Shooting (per level) +150 labor towards Robbing a Gun Salesman +25% Improved Luck +25% Money from jobs and duels | +6 Strength +7 Mobility +7 Dexterity +6 Charisma +83 Vigor +83 Toughness +83 Horseback Riding +83 Hiding +83 Shooting +150 labor towards Robbing a Gun Salesman +25% Improved Luck +25% Money from jobs and duels | +8 Strength +9 Mobility +9 Dexterity +8 Charisma +110 Vigor +110 Toughness +110 Horseback Riding +110 Hiding +110 Shooting +150 labor towards Robbing a Gun Salesman +25% Improved Luck +25% Money from jobs and duels |
Stop wasting sets and make them usable also for low level players. I though you have leartn lessen with Lost Indian Set. Seems to me you havent.
Skills are noticably better than Helen there I see nothing wrong. But those bonuses are or low, missing or useless as per level.
Uchiha Madara
Master Sergeant
Incorrect again. Hunting Foxes gives more XP.
notundead
Lance Corporal
Both jobs give the same xp.
raketak95
Reservist
I think, in terms of stats, the clothing and the ride are very good — they should also be the best options for Food Supplies and Robbing a Gold Digger, which are both great jobs for value drops (along with a few others like Nickel Mining or Pinkerton).
I believe the weapons need some strengthening, because the Women’s October Set from 2023 performs better in those mentioned jobs and is currently the meta in terms of points, at least this should be meta for Robbing a Gun Salesman. That´s currently the weakest spot in terms of labor points.
In terms of bonuses, the Gibson clothing set gives 169% / 169% money and luck, so this clothing is significantly weaker in terms of money. I would suggest boosting it to make it a viable alternative. The ride is fine — it should be the new meta for this combination. Weapon bonuses are again somewhat mediocre; Gibson’s are 53% / 43%, while this one has only 41% / 33% at level 150 (perhaps comparable around level 250). In my opinion, they definitely deserve a buff.
Altogether, I wouldn’t mind this creation.
I believe the weapons need some strengthening, because the Women’s October Set from 2023 performs better in those mentioned jobs and is currently the meta in terms of points, at least this should be meta for Robbing a Gun Salesman. That´s currently the weakest spot in terms of labor points.
In terms of bonuses, the Gibson clothing set gives 169% / 169% money and luck, so this clothing is significantly weaker in terms of money. I would suggest boosting it to make it a viable alternative. The ride is fine — it should be the new meta for this combination. Weapon bonuses are again somewhat mediocre; Gibson’s are 53% / 43%, while this one has only 41% / 33% at level 150 (perhaps comparable around level 250). In my opinion, they definitely deserve a buff.
Altogether, I wouldn’t mind this creation.
asdf124
Corporal
Or just make it 5x the amount per level so its from 0.05% to 0.25%-0.3% per level for cloth set items./cloth bonus. So its 20% at level 80 for each cloth piece, whille level 100, its 25%. By the time they reach level 150, it would be more than worthwhile.
Uchiha Madara
Master Sergeant
True now that I double checked. I always thought it gave 2 XP more than Robbing Gun Salesman for some reason. Oh well who cares.
I AM INEVITABLE
Master Sergeant
I agree on @Emma Swan here. This is the christmas set. Make it useable for everyone. If you want a set targeted to 200+ level players you can do this in other events you could have done it better with the indian set actually.
Uchiha Madara
Master Sergeant
Clothes set: Individual items should be 20% instead of 15%
Clothes set bonus: Remove luck bonus and replace it with Money bonus or if you want to include both, Luck bonus should be 50% and money bonus 120%
Animal and Yield set bonus: 25% Money -> change to 50% and 150 LP towards Robbing Gun Salesman to 200 LP
Weapons set bonus: Same as the Animal and Yield bonus, 25% money change to 50% and LP change from 150 to 200.
Clothes set bonus: Remove luck bonus and replace it with Money bonus or if you want to include both, Luck bonus should be 50% and money bonus 120%
Animal and Yield set bonus: 25% Money -> change to 50% and 150 LP towards Robbing Gun Salesman to 200 LP
Weapons set bonus: Same as the Animal and Yield bonus, 25% money change to 50% and LP change from 150 to 200.
Uchiha Madara
Master Sergeant
What's wrong with Indian set? Its actually very strong.
Emma Swan
Master Sergeant
Not if you are lower level. These sets per level are ridiculour as PvE. I understand making per level bonus in PvP sets (kinda), but not like this. As for Indian set, you need high level, usually above 200 to juice good stats out of it. Meanwhile imagine if you are level 90, completely waste of time where other older set give you better buff. And this will be exactly the same problem. We will die with helen Gibson (almost 3 y.o old money luck set), as level 50, 100, 150, 200 you get the same bonuses from set which is fair for PvE set.
Even for PvP set I wouldnt do whole set per level, bonus per item flat, bonus per set per level or other way around. TO do both bonuses per level means you are useless up until some level. Its exactly the same problem with bonuses flat and per sector. They do all per sector but no more flat.
And, at least Christmas Set should be nice, worth of celebration where people spread joy, not disappointment and everybody can use it. At least they could give us a break with annoying ridiculous weirdly created set and just release at least once a year something that we need.
sebastiankel
Private First Class
I think 'per level' bonuses in PvE sets are quite reasonable. Reaching level 150 takes very little time these days, and even at level 150, you can get a pretty good bonus amount in terms of PvE. Reaching level 200 or above is really hard work. There should be a reward for this difficulty, and I think 'per level' bonuses make a lot of sense in this regard.
WesternCalin
Corporal
At lvl 250 you would have over 290 luck. That's more than any set that currently exists even more than combining best clothes from different sets. Why would you do something like that.
Uchiha Madara
Master Sergeant
Not true. Holiday spirit gives 311% at level 150. I use the Clothes set and the Weapons set combined with Janes animal and yield and can get 505% at level 206.
Emma Swan
Master Sergeant
Oh, and I hope they will
Meanwhile in PvP sets if you get higher dmg because of your level, fine. But you cant be quicker because you have higher level, or earn more money from duels because you are higher level. Otherwise it would be too much pay to win. And since I understand that being important in this game which is actually business from other pov, there must be option for everybody. And to make basic set per level and acting like its reasonable for me being above 200 it more like lets start with monthly fee subscribtion if you wanna use any gear and wear it. Totally nonsense.
Christmas set is not for earning money, it should be for closing the year with something that is missing and would help. Or once a year being nice to all players for still being here while management is punishing all of us for still being here.
You have stats per level and as I said, if you get secondary bonus per level, fine. But item bonuses cant be always per level unless its strong set with purpose (like Western set or example), there it makes sense to make it per level since your base bonus starts pretty high even for low levels. But basic PvE set? Not really. I dont see any reason why level 240 running on boot should be rewarded more on event set (not nugget set) than other levels?
Meanwhile in PvP sets if you get higher dmg because of your level, fine. But you cant be quicker because you have higher level, or earn more money from duels because you are higher level. Otherwise it would be too much pay to win. And since I understand that being important in this game which is actually business from other pov, there must be option for everybody. And to make basic set per level and acting like its reasonable for me being above 200 it more like lets start with monthly fee subscribtion if you wanna use any gear and wear it. Totally nonsense.
Christmas set is not for earning money, it should be for closing the year with something that is missing and would help. Or once a year being nice to all players for still being here while management is punishing all of us for still being here.
Zorro
Private First Class
you should be dev and no loki
Emma Swan
Master Sergeant
Loki isnt developer Loki is our messenger, or as I say "one of the few bright souls that are flying in innogames"
Who creates this sets is probably somebody who is playing CandyCrash..I dont believe its somebody who knows The West game at all lo
.. Somebody who is one event in 2025 and another 2011, then suddenly 1989.darkuletzz
Private First Class
why again another luck set , jesus....
but atleast we got another bullshit under different name and image