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Day of the Dead 2024 - Feedback

martoru

Corporal
Beta is not the only source of feedback.
Based on feedback from diverse sources, it has been decided to decrease the individual item bonus value and increase the set bonus.
that diverse sources play the game on map?
if it was an economical based decision it may be assumed not trow on back of boogie man
 

Uchiha Madara

Master Sergeant
I doubt they’ve listened to BigNoob. He’s the biggest noob ever. It was a coincidence. Don’t hate him.
Not hating him. But would like to know the different kind of sources via link to be able for players that don't know these different kind of sources to start giving feedback there too.
 

Criminus

Lance Corporal
One source would be us; the team members. The feedback can be forwarded also via our internal chat system or internal wiki.
I can assure you I didn’t as I barely play but there could be others.
I would’ve loved more exp as I just started on Ozarks or whatever it’s called.
Probably and most likely new worlds are a reason for this but I can’t really say for sure.
 

BigNoob

Private First Class
Thank you Criminus.

I am not gonna waste my time trying to explain the inner workings of The-West. I am no longer a collaborator, I am just a player.

But I would like to explain the LOGIC behind my reasoning.
You are talking a lot about the majority of the players but the people in a beta forum thread are far from being representative of the majority of the players. The majority of the players dont even know about the existence of beta forum or the beta worlds. The majority of the players dont share feedback, they just accept what InnoGames throws at them. The majority of the players arent clickers. The majority of the players have less than 100k clicks. Whether you like it or not, the majority of the players are casual players. So to defend this majority of the players that are very casual and dont read forums, dont know about the existence of beta forum and have less than 100k clicks I think InnoGames should limit the XP on sets that benefits much more the minority that hangs out here and use cheats like dobby or even worse click manually several hours a day than the majority of the players. Just please dont lie about who is the majority of the players. Because granted they may represent less time and money spent in the game but they are the majority of the players.
 

BigNoob

Private First Class
I have a town of 47 members. Only 2 of them have more than 100k clicks. And looking at how often they click we wont reach 3 players with 100k clicks anytime soon :lol: and I am the closest one to be the next hitting 100k (69k)
 

Uchiha Madara

Master Sergeant
Thank you Criminus.

I am not gonna waste my time trying to explain the inner workings of The-West. I am no longer a collaborator, I am just a player.

But I would like to explain the LOGIC behind my reasoning.
You are talking a lot about the majority of the players but the people in a beta forum thread are far from being representative of the majority of the players. The majority of the players dont even know about the existence of beta forum or the beta worlds. The majority of the players dont share feedback, they just accept what InnoGames throws at them. The majority of the players arent clickers. The majority of the players have less than 100k clicks. Whether you like it or not, the majority of the players are casual players. So to defend this majority of the players that are very casual and dont read forums, dont know about the existence of beta forum and have less than 100k clicks I think InnoGames should limit the XP on sets that benefits much more the minority that hangs out here and use cheats like dobby or even worse click manually several hours a day than the majority of the players. Just please dont lie about who is the majority of the players. Because granted they may represent less time and money spent in the game but they are the majority of the players.
Those players dear friend are not the majority. If they were they would've cared to write 1 single feedback. Since they do not give a damn then they can accept whatever the game throws at them right? What are we? We give feedback on almost everything and we get denied almsot everytime. Why should someone that "plays" the game by building church non stop and pick cherries have a more saying than those who constantly give feedback and not just stupid feedback but good feedback and feedback that can ACTUALLY benefit EVERYONE. The feedback that the players you mentioned give are feedback about THEM and not for the whole community. They are players that spend very little to no money and they are the biggest egoists.


If I was a player like that I would ask for a construction set every event and I would ask for XP to be reduced in sets so I can casually with no effort at all just build church and get the XP from there because I'm just to lazy to do anything else or I'm just an NPC. Why should someone that spends his time doing 15s get more XP than me who build church 24/7 right?
 

Miss Florida

Corporal
Does somebody even like you? Do you even understand evolving of items, players and moving forward? Or because you dont have time or are church banger or not playing at all, rest of players have to suffer from your ¨feedback of other source¨ where clearly we cant play part at?

WTF is beta then? Why is everything discussed here and 1 week earlier, if it doesnt matter then? Just delete beta and release everything at once internationaly. Clearly other sources know better LMAO.....

With your way of thinking, we will celebrate black friday weapons still 10 years later, because, you like to live in bubble. Are you still using Nokia3310? Or do you have smartphone?
You would be surprised but Beta is not the first server where the new content is released. There is a pre-beta world where the content arrives first and to which only the support members like Loki have an access to. Outside of there and Beta, the only places where they actively seek for the feedback are the Facebook page (lmao? Who's even using Facebook in 2024) and the rest of the local TW forums which most have a low user activity.
 

Emma Swan

Master Sergeant
You would be surprised but Beta is not the first server where the new content is released. There is a pre-beta world where the content arrives first and to which only the support members like Loki have an access to. Outside of there and Beta, the only places where they actively seek for the feedback are the Facebook page (lmao? Who's even using Facebook in 2024) and the rest of the local TW forums which most have a low user activity.
But if pre beta knows the best, why going thru effort and post it here then? Obviously, from what we have seen was about to released these years was not properly made, which means pre beta does not have perfect view of everything. Sometime some people forget to give feedback based on experience for all players, not just for 1 - 2 or ----- majority of the west ----- that can fit in 1 town lol :D

Also, why its so quite about it? And like nobody knows about it? There is clearly a post here where it says 30%. Why is it not corrected wia small update as loki does? its very interesting :D

FB is not insult to use. But its easy to contact my friends and send them to comment under the post to give me horse with 1 charisma. And because its silly idea, InnoGames would have listened omg.... I am only laughing at that answer which doesnt make sense.... but then, also, nothing here makes sense lately so...
 

Miss Florida

Corporal
But if pre beta knows the best, why going thru effort and post it here then? Obviously, from what we have seen was about to released these years was not properly made, which means pre beta does not have perfect view of everything. Sometime some people forget to give feedback based on experience for all players, not just for 1 - 2 or ----- majority of the west ----- that can fit in 1 town lol :D

Also, why its so quite about it? And like nobody knows about it? There is clearly a post here where it says 30%. Why is it not corrected wia small update as loki does? its very interesting :D
Coz Beta community is much bigger so features can get tested more throughly. Not all of them, e.g. they usually release some of the PvP changes first on the Polish or .net worlds before it's relased to the other language versions (for FF and adventure changes). These pre-Beta testers are part of the support and most have a long experience of playing TW so my guess is they take into account their opinion too which probably happened in this case (Im just speculating ofc :D but there are no other sources of feedback really).
 

Emma Swan

Master Sergeant
I am just curious if these items as upgraded will add +1% or +2%..... If only +1 then I will lmao here their excellent decisions again :D
But from what I have been seeing since last year, they are trying to make this neverending game even more neverending, being pain in the ass for each player.
 

martoru

Corporal
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I am just curious if these items as upgraded will add +1% or +2%..... If only +1 then I will lmao here their excellent decisions again :D
But from what I have been seeing since last year, they are trying to make this neverending game even more neverending, being pain in the ass for each player.
28 - 30
 

Uchiha Madara

Master Sergeant
The pre beta world is for TEAM MEMBERS ONLY.

Does the team member think about the community or himself?

Does the team member have the last saying?

A pre beta world exists so things can be tested more thoroughly yes but its also a foundation of other things. That doesn't mean that if X item in pre beta was founded to have 50 aiming then it MUST remain 50 aiming. The company asks for players too to give their feedback , most of the times we players get denied and the original foundation remains unchanged.

My questions are the following:

Why ask for feedback if you're going to trust your team members more than your actual players? Team members have shown in the past and still do that they never think about EVERYONE, most of them think about certain worlds, certain markets or even themselves, never have I seen a team member openly expressing his desire of having a fun game for EVERYONE, maybe in their secret cult meetings in discord? But for sure not publicly because InnoGames the scary big bad wolf will fire you if you say 1 word that shouldn't be said.

Coming back to BigNoob , you have to understand that if a player actually cares about the game and wants to have a better experience they will make a beta account, they will find out about it and they will give feedback , not doing it or not deciding to do it or simply not caring then it means that those players do not give a single damn about the whole game , they do not want anyone to benefit except themselves and surely they are majority but for not good reasons. The game is not played only via building church and cherry picking, thats the least entertaining aspects of the game. They are the players that if a something gets more XP than church building will comment once about it that its unfair and will get heard? Whats the logic about that?


We players that give feedback in beta actually care about the game hence we give feedback on almost everything, we do not think about ourselves and how WE can benefit but we think about the whole community itself from Brazilian market to Polish market to Greek market and all markets.


Since we are not being heard , since we players spend so much time giving pointless feedback because it will not be heard and since the team members apparently have a plot armor that the company hears them more than the players that care then why is beta forum even here? Why does it exist? Why are we here giving feedback? You are constantly showing how much you don't want this players feedback by the years and at some point enough is enough.


P.s. Team members have more experience? I am playing the game for a lot of years and I have come across a lot of team members and I can tell you that MOST of them have minimal experience of the game or have experience but the same experience as the "majority" of players as BigNoob said have. Many different times I have come across a team member not knowing how to do X or Y and I'm sure I'm not the only one.


This will be my last feedback about any sets , any game play mechanics change or whatever. It shows exactly who the company listens to and it shows exactly who the company makes fun of.

I will continue saying the worst things about this company until I get banned.
 

Criminus

Lance Corporal
Your feedback was listened to many times before I don't know why you get mad when sometimes doesn't go the way you want.
It's just the way they work and that's it. At the end of the day the management can do whatever they want regardless of how many players are against them and their decisions.
 

Emma Swan

Master Sergeant
Agreed, but, at least we know now officially how does it work :D 100 players say GO RIGHT, then 2 team members say GO LEFT so InnoGames goes left lmao :D And yet still no update about changes :D

But I see anyway less and less good players giving feedback, so, maybe its time to let their team members having the fullest glory of creating chaotic new sets :D And they probably do church, so, nobody should expect rainbows or flowers.

Another situation where I will say this management is poor and they should have been studying more basic subjects at school :)

XOXO Emma LMAO Swan
(my last ¨feedback¨)
 

Criminus

Lance Corporal
Not necessarily. Maybe on their second thought they've realised the experience bonus was too big and it was the last time they could've update them before pushing them into the game due to the time left before the event.
 

Uchiha Madara

Master Sergeant
Your feedback was listened to many times before I don't know why you get mad when sometimes doesn't go the way you want.
You know this is a lie so I wont comment aboutn it.

I'm not mad about not being heard , I'm more frustrated because apparently there are more ways of giving feedback but it's limited to team members only?

I couldn't care less of having 5% xp more on my 400% xp set. I have completed the game in sense of buffs and personal achievements and accomplishments. I am 195 level and in 5 years I will probably reach 250 maybe less with the amount of buffs I have.

I am frustrated that we must sniff our nails to find out about something and that our feedback here means nothing 95% of the time.


If the company doesn't care then personally I don't care too. I am good enough to hold in another 5-10-15 years how many years this dumb game goes for. I care about other players having the same experience as me or at least have the same fun as me. I personally can not spend a single cent and still be the best character in my world or even the entire market. Anyone else that cares about the game and has a difficult time or doesn't have fun then it's time for them to speak , if they dont speak then they should accept whatever InnoGames throws at their face.
 

Criminus

Lance Corporal
I am just curious if these items as upgraded will add +1% or +2%..... If only +1 then I will lmao here their excellent decisions again :D
But from what I have been seeing since last year, they are trying to make this neverending game even more neverending, being pain in the ass for each player.
You can play with them here:
The items will show the correct icons eventually. It's InnoGames' CDN's fault.
 
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