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Day of the Dead 2021 Discussion

BaggyBlue

Master Sergeant
How do you defend the whom quack is allowed to make the drinks

Potion of the new beginning costs other worlds 1000 Nuggets or Union-Pacifc-Bonds
Potion of Oblivion Costs 600 Nuggets or Union Pacifc Bonds
Potion of Weakening costs 600 Nuggets or Union Pacifc Bonds

Just too expensive. Always very cheap from only to beta

Recipe to 900:

Koch steals Kreuther Herr (there are so many where only come at an event)
Schied provides a saucepan for the quack and a golden sickle for the cook
Saddle master steals glass bottles Lord teach for the quack
Quack then steals the drinks Mr. Potion of a new beginning costs others, Potion of oblivion costs & Potion of weakening costs

that means that the quack is angling for other professions. And you can't sell the drinks over 10k just to enrich yourself
 

Uchiha Madara

Master Sergeant
Is there going to be a pumpkin hunt as well? If yes, will the DotD chests that are in the pumpkins be upgraded? Last year we got 2014_15_16 chests , will this year be 2015_16_17?
 

Deleted User - 117528

Guest
And after all, is Ron set going to revisited ?
Best suggestion was that weapon dmg. to be at least like murrieta ones and clothes in my oppinion should be slightly better than mosey.
 

Al35ul CM

Shadow City Guardian
Former Team Member
And after all, is Ron set going to revisited ?
Best suggestion was that weapon dmg. to be at least like murrieta ones and clothes in my oppinion should be slightly better than mosey.
Suggestion was passed on yesterday. I do believe some changes will be made,but there is still time left. With that being said, now would be the time to submit any improvement suggestion and/or requests. Of course, that does not mean that they will 100% be implemented, but they will surely be considered.
 

*Colonel*

Lance Corporal
Suggestion was passed on yesterday. I do believe some changes will be made,but there is still time left. With that being said, now would be the time to submit any improvement suggestion and/or requests. Of course, that does not mean that they will 100% be implemented, but they will surely be considered.
Thanks for the feedback regarding Ron set proposals. Tell us please, did you also passed any proposals regarding Jaguar set?
 

TadschMahal

Sergeant
Ron's Hat
+0.03 Dexterity 5
+0.03 Charisma 5
+0.35 Aiming 53
+0.36 Leadership 54
Ron's Hat New
+0.03 Dexterity 5
+0.03 Charisma 5
+0.36 Aiming 54
+0.36 Leadership 54
Rons's Scarf
+0.03 Mobility 5
+0.03 Charisma 5
+0.39 Hiding 59
+0.35 Leadership 53
Rons's Scarf New
+0.03 Mobility 5
+0.03 Charisma 5
+0.39 Hiding 59
+0.39 Leadership 59
Ron's Shirt
+0.06 Dexterity 9
+0.05 Mobility 8
+0.05 Charisma 8
+0.56 Hiding 84
+0.43 Aiming 65
+0.43 Leadership 65
Ron's Shirt New
+0.06 Dexterity 9
+0.05 Mobility 8
+0.05 Charisma 8
+0.5 Hiding 75
+0.5 Aiming 75
+0.56 Leadership 84
Ron's Belt
+0.06 Dexterity 9
+0.05 Charisma 8
+0.51 Aiming 77
+0.41 Setting Traps 62
+0.45 Leadership 68
Ron's Belt New
+0.06 Dexterity 9
+0.05 Charisma 8
+0.61 Aiming 77
+0.75 Leadership 68
+1 attack
Ron's Shoes
+0.06 Mobility 9
+0.04 Charisma 6
+0.41 Hiding 62
+0.51 Aiming 77
+0.31 Leadership 47
Ron's Shoes New
+0.06 Mobility 9
+0.04 Charisma 6
+0.4 Hiding 60
+0.4 Aiming 60
+0.5 Leadership 75
Ron's Pants
+0.06 Dexterity 9
+0.06 Mobility 9
+0.05 Charisma 8
+0.55 Hiding 83
+0.55 Aiming 83
+0.56 Setting Traps 84
Ron's Pants New
+0.06 Dexterity 9
+0.06 Mobility 9
+0.05 Charisma 8
+0.56 Hiding 84
+0.56 Aiming 84
+0.56 Ledership 84
1 attack
Ron's Clothing Set
+0.07 Mobility 11
+0.07 Dexterity 11
+0.07 Charisma 11
+0.8 Hiding 120
+0.8 Aiming 120
+0.8 Setting Traps 120
+0.7 Leadership 105
+10 attack
Ron's Clothing Set New
+0.07 Mobility 11
+0.07 Dexterity 11
+0.07 Charisma 11
+1 Hiding 150
+1 Aiming 150
+1.1 Leadership 165
+15 attack
Total points with setting traps = 1677
Total points without setting traps = 1411

For comparison Captain's clothing set:
Total points = 1781

For comparison Cortina's clothing set:
Total points = 2005
Total points = 1653


Why do I subtract setting traps from Ron's/Murrieta's set ?
Because setting traps is not needed in the attack.

Why don't I subtract values from Captain's set?
Because there are no values that are not used in the attack.

Why do I include Cortina's set in the comparison even though it is a tank set?
Because Cortina's set is by far the strongest ff set and it is impossible for the attack to compete with Cortina's set.

As you can see, the new Ron's set is neither stronger than Captain's set nor stronger than Cortina's set.

Difference to Captain's set = -128
Difference to Cortina's set = -352
Difference to old Ron's set = +266 (+7 attack)

So please, don't give me the old story that not every set has to be better, because Ron's set is not better as you can see.

I will post the same again for the horse set and for the weapon set.

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Kasza1987

Reservist
I will be so happy when will start Holiday Sale 2021 everybody running J. Cortina set level 2-3 and other players never kill because they dont give good set,
 

TadschMahal

Sergeant
Ron's Iguana
+0.04 Dexterity 6
+0.04 Charisma 6
+0.52 Hiding 78
+0.55 Aiming 83
+0.45 Setting Traps 68
Ron's Iguana New
+0.04 Dexterity 6
+0.04 Charisma 6
+0.5 Hiding 75
+0.4 Aiming 60
+0.5 Leadership 75
+ 3 attack
Ron's Marimba
+0.04 Dexterity 6
+0.04 Mobility 6
+0.55 Aiming 83
+0.41 Setting Traps 62
+0.25 Leadership 38
Ron's Marimba New
+0.04 Dexterity 6
+0.04 Mobility 6
+0.5 Aiming 75
+0.4 Hiding 60
+0.5 Leadership 75
+3 attack
Ron's Iguana and Marimba
+0.06 Mobility 9
+0.05 Dexterity 8
+0.05 Charisma 8
+0.51 Hiding 77
+0.51 Setting Traps 77
+0.51 Leadership 77
Ron's Iguana and Marimba New
+0.06 Mobility 9
+0.05 Dexterity 8
+0.05 Charisma 8
+0.5 Hiding 75
+0.5 Aiming 75
+0.5 Leadership 75
+5 attack
Total points with setting traps = 692
Total points without setting traps = 485

For comparison Murrietas horse set:
Total points with setting traps = 711
Total points without setting traps = 561 (+45 sector damage)

For comparison Cortina's horse set:
Total points = 765 (+12,5 defense, +45 resistance)
Points total = 694

Difference to Murrieats horse set = +133 (+11 attack)
Difference to Cortinas horse set = -71
Difference to old Ron's horse set = +2 [+11 attack](with setting traps (total of 692 old)) +209 (without setting traps (total of 485))

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It is best to start with the first post to understand everything
 

TadschMahal

Sergeant
Ron's Knife
+0.04 Dexterity 6
+0.04 Charisma 6
+0.41 Setting Traps 62
+0.31 Leadership 47


Ron's Knife New

+0.04 Dexterity 6
+0.04 Charisma 6
+0.41 Hiding 62
+0.31 Leadership 47
+2 attack
Ron's Flintlock
+0.04 Dexterity 6
+0.04 Charisma 6
+0.41 Hiding 62
+0.31 Leadership 47

Ron's Flintlock New
+0.04 Dexterity 6
+0.04 Charisma 6
+0.41 Hiding 62
+0.31 Leadership 47
+2 attack

Ron's Rifle
+0.05 Dexterity 8
+0.06 Mobility 9
+0.05 Charisma 8
+0.32 Hiding 48
+0.32 Aiming 48
+0.21 Setting Traps 32
+0.21 Leadership 32


Ron's Rifle New (35-50 Base Damage 2.2 Damage per Level)
+0.05 Dexterity 8
+0.06 Mobility 9
+0.05 Charisma 8
+0.32 Hiding 48
+0.32 Aiming 48
+0.42 Leadership 64
+3 attack
Ron's weapon's set
+0.05 Mobility 8
+0.05 Dexterity 8
+0.07 Charisma 11
+0.29 Hiding 44
+0.49 Aiming 74
+0.25 Setting Traps 38
+0.35 Leadership 53
+ 5 attack

Ron's weapon's set New
+0.05 Mobility 8
+0.05 Dexterity 8
+0.07 Charisma 11
+0.4 Hiding 60
+0.49 Aiming 74
+0.5 Leadership 75
+ 5 attack
+25 damage

Total points with setting traps = 542
Total points without setting traps = 410/472 (depens on the dueling weapon)

For comparison Murrieta's weapon's set:
Total points with setting traps = 582 (2.2 damage per level)
Total points without setting traps = 417

For comparison Cortina's weapon's set:
Total points = 586 (+6 defense, +75 resistance)
Total points = 542

Difference to Murrieta's weapons's set = -40 (with setting traps) +125 (without setting traps)
Difference to Cortina's weapon's set = -44
Difference to old Ron's weapon's set = +/- 0 [+25 damage, +5 attack, 35-50 Base Damage 2.2 Damage per Level] (with setting traps)

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It is best to start with the first post to understand everything
 

JustAMoment

Lance Corporal
Thats just too op lol. Only thing i see viable is adding +attack on riding set along with adjusting leadership. but otherwise having +35attack on single set is nearly blasphemy. Guys in defense will never miss and it still wont be enough to take down guys with cortinas with tower bonuses.

I think having atleast the better/alternative ride than is Murrieta one should be prio after 3 years.
 

TadschMahal

Sergeant
Thats just too op lol. Only thing i see viable is adding +attack on riding set along with adjusting leadership. but otherwise having +35attack on single set is nearly blasphemy. Guys in defense will never miss and it still wont be enough to take down guys with cortinas with tower bonuses.

I think having atleast the better/alternative ride than is Murrieta one should be prio after 3 years.
Cortina gives +30 defense and 190 resistance.... plus it still gives more points than Ron's set...
 

DeletedUser500

Guest
can yall make jaguars dueling set be a vig/shooting set?? give same amount vigor as shooting.. so people can choose which side of a dueler to be as .. since las vegas world just came out.. it would be unfair to give range duelers a advantage for a couple months till melee set comes out on valentines??
I want shooting on cowgirl and josephine.
thats not the point.. :P only asking to make it fair on las vegas world...
x-mas is like 2months away... thats still long!!
And here we see the biggest flaw of the tombola era, the parity and competitiveness between the styles of PvP is non-existent. A melee set comes out, shooters suffer for months, a leadership set comes out, tanks suffer for months until they get their opportunity to gamble for an appropriate set.

It's also impossible to make sets for old worlds with Union Officer or Cortina set on it, everything will be weak compared to those and no one will want the new sets.
pls nerf what you have to nerf and release competing sets for different builds for the same PvP activity at the same time.
It has already been a year and a half since he IFBC 3, where Union set was banned, and InnoGames actually recognised their problem with fort battles. A year later and nothing has been fixed, we got Cortina as a reply to Union set which, along with the tower buffs, made defences far too strong if there aren't enough Union sets to bring down towers - which there aren't because it was a nugget set.

There's 5 tombolas per year, you could organise it thusly for example:
Valentines: 1 work / 1 Adventures sets / nugget general duel set
Easter: 2 specialised duel sets / 1 general fort set / nugget work set
American Independence: 2 work / 1 speed sets / nugget specialised fort set
Oktoberfest: 2 specialised fort sets / 1 general duel set / nugget general duel set
Day of the Dead: 2 work / 1 construction sets / nugget specialised fort set
+ Xmas: 1 work set and the opportunity to win the rest / nugget work set



work sets meaning exp/money/product/luck and LP sets.
There should be NO PVP sets in the Day of the Dead tombola, as they are excluded from the xmas bags.
 
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RaiderTr

Master Sergeant
People seems to disregard the fact that you can get Sector Damage (which, doubled with no-Hp Leadership build) from other(s) while it's not a thing for Resistance..

You wanna balance Attack v Defense?
Sure, nerf Union Officer rifle Damage a little bit, nerf Class bonus of Towers a little bit (except Small forts) , and there you go.
 
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