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Changelog 2.4x Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Saloon' started by xShteff, Aug 1, 2016.

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  1. syIvester

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    they don't care much about those that say to keep it as it is. they nerfed it into a deadwood with less dodging
     
  2. Zulus

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    Nice changes. Hombre will now not be a set that killed all before it but rather be a competitive alternative to existing fort fighting sets. Gives us all an additional choice rather then the only choice. Thank you.
     
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  3. roy o benonn

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    Well they should not touch the resistance. after this change I will still keep Dalton. few more points, less resistance do not give me a reason for a change in my sets situation. ( wright brothers plane and diploma)
     
  4. xShteff

    xShteff Master Sergeant Former Team Member

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    You can see the changes that will be done in the announcement posted a few hours ago.
     
  5. Zulus

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    And that is exactly what i am talking about - choices. You have a choice and you chose to use dalton because of the extra 25% res among other things. Others may choose Hombre because of its big HP advantage and more points in traps and hiding.
     
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  6. roy o benonn

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    I will try Hombre anyway in few fights. I just wanted something better for soldiers and adventurers after we can upgrade a weapons . demage went very high after that. every usable thing in west for fortbatle increase demage. But resistance ........ no single thing. As I sad before I was able to get 25 hits now it is only 15.
     
  7. syIvester

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    you keep saing choices but due to weapon upgrade we take up to 50% more damage while we have to use same sets from more than 2 years back. As a tank or advent is not fun to play anymore
     
  8. xShteff

    xShteff Master Sergeant Former Team Member

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    Apparently we couldn't update today. Hopefully we'll be able to update on Monday.
     
  9. Zulus

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    Are you suggesting that because of all those new upgraded weapons you would like a set that could give you 40k hp or/and maybe 500 res?

    Every player on attacking and defending side is subject to increased damage thesdays but somehow fort fights did not get any shorter (thank heavens) and are still very exciting (especially after the changes that have been made to FF), provided 2 balanced sides fight each other.

    So that leaves us with the definition of your personal "fun". Lucky for most of us, fort fighting is a team game rather then individual preference exercise.
     
  10. syIvester

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    i talk about balance between duellers and advents/soldiers you talk about balance between attack and defense. And 500 res is quite far from 60 resistance.
    Is really not rocket science to choose the best set for your class/style of play. Anyway i just wanted a better set. i won't pay real cash for an alternative to die in 15 hits.
     
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    I just bought "Big Flower pot" (2500 flowers in 24 hours). If I buy another one, can I get 5000 flowes in 24 hours ?
     
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    You probably can't buy it twice
     
  13. xShteff

    xShteff Master Sergeant Former Team Member

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    He shouldn't be able to. I won't be surprised if it was bugged and he could tho' :p.
     
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    Hello.
    Wheel Lock Militaria set Some bonuses from the Wheel Lock Militaria set were missing. The set has been rebalanced.
    How looks now sets bonus?
     
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  15. xShteff

    xShteff Master Sergeant Former Team Member

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    Like any other tombola set.
     
  16. Vether

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    But each of them has a slightly different bonuses... Could you give us more detailed information?
     
  17. xShteff

    xShteff Master Sergeant Former Team Member

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    Imagine the old bonus plus a few extra labor points, fort battle damage and money from jobs and duels.
     
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    Can you guys add ability to bribe flower death njub via bonds? Not just nuggets :P

    I know it's highly unlikely that InnoGames would be intrigued by this idea.

    Sylvester, I disagree as now it looks like an upgraded dwd set rather than dwd and dalton had a baby named hombre :P.
     
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    so we'll be able to play the tombola only with nuggets?
     
  20. Zulus

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    after todays fixes, Hombre still does have leadership set bonus and 60 resistance.

    As a prem soldier on beta, here is a quick comparison of dalton vs hombre now (straight clothes comparison. no weapons and horse set equipped in both cases).

    Dalton set upgraded vs not upgraded hombre :

    hp : 1590 vs 12610
    dodge : 126 more in dalton
    hide : 172 more in hombre
    aim : 43 more in hombre
    traps : 131 more in hombre
    leadership : 48 more in hombre (if you do remove ld set bonus of 120 as stated earlier, then dalton will have 72 points ld advantage).

    To summarise : even if the ld set bonus of 120 points gets removed from hombre set bonus and resistance gets decreased from 60 to 50, it is a nobrainer. Not to mention all other current fort fight sets with the exception maybe of bart for those interested in extra damage.
    In hombre i get over 5000 hp more then in scout or deadwood too, so goodbye old sets. Forced to clean out the closet.

    p.s.
    if we add to that hombre horse set with its set bonus of 90 ap's, 60 sp's and 25 res, all other horse sets have been permanently terminated too maybe with the exception of bart again.

    Add to that all another 90 ap's bonus from Hombre gun set and suddenly you have a set up in Hombre that will make Superman (in any other old set) look like maya the bee.
     
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