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Changelog 2.260 - Discussion

@Loki

the whistlee fix is correct, it was supose to not be 100% - 200% since they released it, we just abused it since then, there is nothing to complain about.

Missing things to Fix:

Sets and items:
Folklorico cat speed: 337% > 375%

Xochiquetzal's shield damage: 1.1 > 1.15

Unknown bandit set money bonus: 70% > 60%

Tomato puree: Not auctionable >Auctionable

Blue John's Shirt is giving 0.3 shooting twice

Beautiful rifle is giving fine motor skills instead of horseback riding

Unknown bandit set is useless

Classes:
Worker exp (in bold): base valuse * (clothes+buff+100)/100 * ((bonus+100)/100), it should be... base valuse * (clothes+buff+100)/100 * ((bonus+100)/100)
since the game released, it is nerfing the exp while above 100% on gear bonus to workers.


Greenhorn drop chance: it is still abusable below level 10, if a greenhorn have 0% motivation it keeps droping products, what could solve this is making greenhorn motivation dont decrease or 1000% till level 10.

Miscellaneous:
Things to do with Money (on hands) while in battle: you can still put bounty, upgrade items, and deposit with nuggets (which i thing can keep).

Market sell tab: if you click on other town (at other place youre not in) you cant put things on market to sell, need to click on the market the town you are located, i know that it is this way due to you can nugget to post the goods in other place, but i REALLY doubt someone pay nugget to put something to sell in other town, it should allways work and put the items in the place you are in.

Achievments:
The craft achievment for green dificult items sometimes is impossible to get (due to players luck), (doesnt means in future we will not have new craft recipes for over 1000 points).

Some complete sets achievment still apearing only after craft something, me in Arizona:
1778008236565.png

Outdated things:

Classes:

Adv: Free hotel (never was usefull)
Dueler: More money in duels, see oponent skills and duel motivation. (the duel money has a 10k cap)
Worker: Building points and motivation bonus (its too weak)
Soldier: Level needed to use weapon (after the level 1 in every single item, this become useless)

Tutorial:
besides being exploitable the (drop chance), it dont teach anything that is really important, so its 100% necessary another player help a newbie, not to mention that after level 15, you lose 99% of speed, basically if someone didnt stoped yet to play, will stop after level 15.

Begginer set:
never was usefull at all

Shop sets: (Like indian or mexican)
since 2013 christmass, they become not usefull anymore.

Nugget prices for old items: @Useless Sales
i really doubt that @innogames cant know which items are the most bought or sold in lets say, western sale.

1778005286320.pngwhy the H, these 2 items have that diference in value?

150 nuggets for deputy shoes is ok, i have bought it, and know people that have even upgraded, but why 300 nuggets for the uniform, i doubt that if was 50 would still be costly for what the item gives, so why keep charging the same price.

Event winners sets/items:
there are a lot of sets that were given as event winners, like gringo, union officer, speedy gonzarlis, creativity, and unfortunatelly all of them not aged very well, like gringo weapons, even still being good, it feels that has something missing on it, like more hp or exp on it, of course some items are still usefull, but the prestige of winning a event is not the same since the release of these sets.

Event reward rarities: @Uchiha Madara
1778007588523.png
just why so many useless things on it?

Tombola rewards:
1778007833156.png
there is not a single good item in that, even the fair or clown set are useless (for over a decade)

Shop items and sets for bonds/nuggets:
Exremely outdated some items and some prices, like the price for a profession bag, who even buy this? or the classes sets, if they cost 10x less, would still be useless.
 
Good news everyone, Old Referee Whistle speed bonus wasn't changed :lol:
Good job @innogames for actually listening to the feedback, keep that attitude for future changelogs, considering they will only happen once a year, it is a nice detail from you :lovetw:

As for the Easter set not being auctionable, I pressume it was an overlook that will be fixed next changelog in 2027, be patient everyone.
 
is it possible to move xp bonus to belt in new set? we keep getting xp boots every 2nd event and nothing in belt for a long time.
 
@Loki



Event winners sets/items:
there are a lot of sets that were given as event winners, like gringo, union officer, speedy gonzarlis, creativity, and unfortunatelly all of them not aged very well, like gringo weapons, even still being good, it feels that has something missing on it, like more hp or exp on it, of course some items are still usefull, but the prestige of winning a event is not the same since the release of these sets.

Event reward rarities: @Uchiha Madara
View attachment 4000
just why so many useless things on it?

Tombola rewards:

there is not a single good item in that, even the fair or clown set are useless (for over a decade)
Also, why there was no weapons bag for all the very rare in easter event? To include all weapons?
 
@Loki

the whistlee fix is correct, it was supose to not be 100% - 200% since they released it, we just abused it since then, there is nothing to complain about.

Missing things to Fix:

Sets and items:
Folklorico cat speed: 337% > 375%

Xochiquetzal's shield damage: 1.1 > 1.15

Unknown bandit set money bonus: 70% > 60%

Tomato puree: Not auctionable >Auctionable

Blue John's Shirt is giving 0.3 shooting twice

Beautiful rifle is giving fine motor skills instead of horseback riding

Unknown bandit set is useless

Classes:
Worker exp (in bold): base valuse * (clothes+buff+100)/100 * ((bonus+100)/100), it should be... base valuse * (clothes+buff+100)/100 * ((bonus+100)/100)
since the game released, it is nerfing the exp while above 100% on gear bonus to workers.


Greenhorn drop chance: it is still abusable below level 10, if a greenhorn have 0% motivation it keeps droping products, what could solve this is making greenhorn motivation dont decrease or 1000% till level 10.

Miscellaneous:
Things to do with Money (on hands) while in battle: you can still put bounty, upgrade items, and deposit with nuggets (which i thing can keep).

Market sell tab: if you click on other town (at other place youre not in) you cant put things on market to sell, need to click on the market the town you are located, i know that it is this way due to you can nugget to post the goods in other place, but i REALLY doubt someone pay nugget to put something to sell in other town, it should allways work and put the items in the place you are in.

Achievments:
The craft achievment for green dificult items sometimes is impossible to get (due to players luck), (doesnt means in future we will not have new craft recipes for over 1000 points).

Some complete sets achievment still apearing only after craft something, me in Arizona:
View attachment 4002

Outdated things:

Classes:

Adv: Free hotel (never was usefull)
Dueler: More money in duels, see oponent skills and duel motivation. (the duel money has a 10k cap)
Worker: Building points and motivation bonus (its too weak)
Soldier: Level needed to use weapon (after the level 1 in every single item, this become useless)

Tutorial:
besides being exploitable the (drop chance), it dont teach anything that is really important, so its 100% necessary another player help a newbie, not to mention that after level 15, you lose 99% of speed, basically if someone didnt stoped yet to play, will stop after level 15.

Begginer set:
never was usefull at all

Shop sets: (Like indian or mexican)
since 2013 christmass, they become not usefull anymore.

Nugget prices for old items: @Useless Sales
i really doubt that @innogames cant know which items are the most bought or sold in lets say, western sale.

View attachment 3999why the H, these 2 items have that diference in value?

150 nuggets for deputy shoes is ok, i have bought it, and know people that have even upgraded, but why 300 nuggets for the uniform, i doubt that if was 50 would still be costly for what the item gives, so why keep charging the same price.

Event winners sets/items:
there are a lot of sets that were given as event winners, like gringo, union officer, speedy gonzarlis, creativity, and unfortunatelly all of them not aged very well, like gringo weapons, even still being good, it feels that has something missing on it, like more hp or exp on it, of course some items are still usefull, but the prestige of winning a event is not the same since the release of these sets.

Event reward rarities: @Uchiha Madara
View attachment 4000
just why so many useless things on it?

Tombola rewards:
View attachment 4001
there is not a single good item in that, even the fair or clown set are useless (for over a decade)

Shop items and sets for bonds/nuggets:
Exremely outdated some items and some prices, like the price for a profession bag, who even buy this? or the classes sets, if they cost 10x less, would still be useless.


Everything you said makes sense, and there are many more things that could be improved. I'm very sorry that it will be forgotten and that you spent so much time pointing out all these things that could be improved. Unfortunately, InnoGames hasn't listened to us for years, and they confirm this with every update they release.
 
@Loki

the whistlee fix is correct, it was supose to not be 100% - 200% since they released it, we just abused it since then, there is nothing to complain about.

Missing things to Fix:

Sets and items:
Folklorico cat speed: 337% > 375%

Xochiquetzal's shield damage: 1.1 > 1.15

Unknown bandit set money bonus: 70% > 60%

Tomato puree: Not auctionable >Auctionable

Blue John's Shirt is giving 0.3 shooting twice

Beautiful rifle is giving fine motor skills instead of horseback riding

Unknown bandit set is useless

Classes:
Worker exp (in bold): base valuse * (clothes+buff+100)/100 * ((bonus+100)/100), it should be... base valuse * (clothes+buff+100)/100 * ((bonus+100)/100)
since the game released, it is nerfing the exp while above 100% on gear bonus to workers.


Greenhorn drop chance: it is still abusable below level 10, if a greenhorn have 0% motivation it keeps droping products, what could solve this is making greenhorn motivation dont decrease or 1000% till level 10.

Miscellaneous:
Things to do with Money (on hands) while in battle: you can still put bounty, upgrade items, and deposit with nuggets (which i thing can keep).

Market sell tab: if you click on other town (at other place youre not in) you cant put things on market to sell, need to click on the market the town you are located, i know that it is this way due to you can nugget to post the goods in other place, but i REALLY doubt someone pay nugget to put something to sell in other town, it should allways work and put the items in the place you are in.

Achievments:
The craft achievment for green dificult items sometimes is impossible to get (due to players luck), (doesnt means in future we will not have new craft recipes for over 1000 points).

Some complete sets achievment still apearing only after craft something, me in Arizona:
View attachment 4002

Outdated things:

Classes:

Adv: Free hotel (never was usefull)
Dueler: More money in duels, see oponent skills and duel motivation. (the duel money has a 10k cap)
Worker: Building points and motivation bonus (its too weak)
Soldier: Level needed to use weapon (after the level 1 in every single item, this become useless)

Tutorial:
besides being exploitable the (drop chance), it dont teach anything that is really important, so its 100% necessary another player help a newbie, not to mention that after level 15, you lose 99% of speed, basically if someone didnt stoped yet to play, will stop after level 15.

Begginer set:
never was usefull at all

Shop sets: (Like indian or mexican)
since 2013 christmass, they become not usefull anymore.

Nugget prices for old items: @Useless Sales
i really doubt that @innogames cant know which items are the most bought or sold in lets say, western sale.

View attachment 3999why the H, these 2 items have that diference in value?

150 nuggets for deputy shoes is ok, i have bought it, and know people that have even upgraded, but why 300 nuggets for the uniform, i doubt that if was 50 would still be costly for what the item gives, so why keep charging the same price.

Event winners sets/items:
there are a lot of sets that were given as event winners, like gringo, union officer, speedy gonzarlis, creativity, and unfortunatelly all of them not aged very well, like gringo weapons, even still being good, it feels that has something missing on it, like more hp or exp on it, of course some items are still usefull, but the prestige of winning a event is not the same since the release of these sets.

Event reward rarities: @Uchiha Madara
View attachment 4000
just why so many useless things on it?

Tombola rewards:
View attachment 4001
there is not a single good item in that, even the fair or clown set are useless (for over a decade)

Shop items and sets for bonds/nuggets:
Exremely outdated some items and some prices, like the price for a profession bag, who even buy this? or the classes sets, if they cost 10x less, would still be useless.
Agree with what you said. Take notes from this Innogames.
 
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