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Changelog 2.185

Miss Florida

Lance Corporal
It's live now. :lol:


You want to shoot pumpkins? :pifpaf:
Obv. I'm just kidding. :whistle:


I will need to ask and get back to you.


The sets will be fixed so no worries there and La China is the free set. :up:


How dare we make the Oktoberfest sets auctionable. :lol:
That´s not an answer Loki. :(
 

WhyN0t

Master Sergeant
Did you actually released the sets with those crazy values? :lol:
I know it's "beta", but it's treated as a normal server.
 

FreeHugs

Private First Class
InnoGames really thinks the equivalent of saying "no backsies" will hold up.

Stupid idea to allow spending on a "test" world seems like a legal nightmare, hope you guys allow refunds when you make these changes because that pathetic warning really wont mean anything.
 

Cataclysmo

Private
How can you say a warning means nothing lol. If the game closes tomorrow (the live servers) guess what? You don’t get a refund.
 

Loki

The West Team
Stupid idea to allow spending on a "test" world seems like a legal nightmare
In the gaming world, this is normal. Even triple-A games do it.
For most games, you have to pay in order to be able to play Alpha/Beta.
Some get stuck in "Early Access Alpha" for years.

Also, because this is Beta, you get 3x more nuggets. :up:
 

FreeHugs

Private First Class
How can you say a warning means nothing lol. If the game closes tomorrow (the live servers) guess what? You don’t get a refund.

I'm saying legally that extremely short warning isn't enough, not that the warning itself has no meaning.

In the gaming world, this is normal. Even triple-A games do it.
For most games, you have to pay in order to be able to play Alpha/Beta.
Some get stuck in "Early Access Alpha" for years.

Also, because this is Beta, you get 3x more nuggets. :up:

Yes, huge companies release massive multi-million dollar well crafted games in alpha / beta (even games in alpha are more polished than The West) with a price tag and in-game purchases. Not only is this fundamentally different from monetising a bug testing server but they have hordes of lawyers and massive Terms and Conditions you must confirm before even playing.

But even then, there is a level of good faith between the consumer & producer, refunds are almost always given regardless of said terms and conditions that may technically give them the right to refuse when there are game affecting changes / bugs. There's zero good faith between InnoGames & the consumers bringing this example even further from what the majority of respectable game companies do.

The reason I bring this up is I think monetising a BUG TEST SERVER (doing innos bug testing work for them might I add) that almost all that play on it treat as a normal server because of how InnoGames has treated it, A lame and generalised "fix all" warning when it's been encouraged to play on normally should never be justified or defended. it is not the industry standard and the whole set-up is immoral.

Maybe you are used to InnoGames poor treatment and think their word is law but compared to the industry standard this'd be what you call "some shady...".

I got banned for this post so reposting without the words that got me banned :P
 
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